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Old 04-10-2009, 09:51 PM   #16
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Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?

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Even if you think Dirk is the best Euro player of all time, that's not saying much.

not saying much? are you serious?

the implication that he might be better than tony parker is saying a lot all by itself!

btw, big drazen fan, but... no. he was not better than dirk.
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Old 04-10-2009, 09:52 PM   #17
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Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?

Dirk can only do one thing at an elite level: shoot. He really doesn't help his team outside of shooting the basketball, which is why he has a tendency to disappear in a game when he's not scoring the ball. If I was starting a team, I wouldn't want Dirk as the first option player, and I really wouldn't want him if I didn't have a legit center because he's not a real PF.
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Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?

Yes, career-wise (and putting NBA career over international career), Nowitzki has to be at #1. Even talent-wise, I'd only put Sabonis in the same category, and we know that Sabonis didn't play up to his full potential.
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Hell yes.

The greatest by a wide margin. Tony has nothing on Dirk...

He is one of the greatest shooters, competitors, and overall warriors to ever grace the game.

And @ Showtime...If Dirk had a strong low post center at any point in his career I guarantee he would have had a very good chance to win a championship or two.
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Old 04-10-2009, 10:35 PM   #21
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Would be nice to write something about your '10 thing'.
I would like to discuss them with you.

In no particular order:

Passing
Ball handling
Court Vision
Basketball IQ
1-on-1 defense
Tenacity
Work ethic
Three-point shooting
Ambidexterity
Ability to perform under pressure
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Tony Parker, first european player to win FINALS MVP > Regular season MVP!!

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Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?

[quote=Hammertime]In no particular order:

Passing
Ball handling
Court Vision

Basketball IQ
1-on-1 defense
Tenacity
Work ethic

Three-point shooting
Ambidexterity
Ability to perform under pressure[
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Dirk is a power forward. Why are you comparing aspects of guards?

Also the bolded is what Dirk has the edge in...

How on earth can you say he was better under pressure than Dirk when he had only one good playoff run?
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In no particular order:

Passing
Ball handling
Court Vision

Basketball IQ
1-on-1 defense
Tenacity
Work ethic

Three-point shooting
Ambidexterity
Ability to perform under pressure[
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Dirk is a power forward. Why are you comparing aspects of guards?

Also the bolded is what Dirk has the edge in...

How on earth can you say he was better under pressure than Dirk when he had only one good playoff run?

Newsflash, there is basketball outside the NBA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lqi4rd6y38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPkXkZZsPGw
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Newsflash, Drazen was in his prime in the NBA...
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Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?

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Newsflash, Drazen was in his prime in the NBA...

Drazen died at 28, whereas Dirk got his MVP trophy at 29. Drazen died as he was hitting his prime.

Either way, can you point out what else Dirk does well except shoot? Cause we're all waiting for it. While you're at it, could you explain to me how it's anything but downright pathetic that a 7-footer is playing 36 MPG and averaging barely over a block for the career?
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Old 04-10-2009, 11:00 PM   #28
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Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?

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In no particular order:

Passing
Ball handling
Court Vision
Basketball IQ
1-on-1 defense
Tenacity
Work ethic
Three-point shooting
Ambidexterity
Ability to perform under pressure

That's your list? Funny, really funny.

Work ethic? Do you anything know about Dirk's work ethic?
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Drazen died at 28, whereas Dirk got his MVP trophy at 29. Drazen died as he was hitting his prime.

Either way, can you point out what else Dirk does well except shoot? Cause we're all waiting for it. While you're at it, could you explain to me how it's anything but downright pathetic that a 7-footer is playing 36 MPG and averaging barely over a block for the career?

Amar'e gets more blocks than Dirk, but would you say he is the better defender?

Defense isn't soley about blocking shots, it is a wonder that you do not understand that.

Shooting the basketball scores points...I am amazed that you don't understand that.
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Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?

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Drazen died at 28, whereas Dirk got his MVP trophy at 29. Drazen died as he was hitting his prime.

Either way, can you point out what else Dirk does well except shoot? Cause we're all waiting for it. While you're at it, could you explain to me how it's anything but downright pathetic that a 7-footer is playing 36 MPG and averaging barely over a block for the career?

Can you tell me why Petrovic was a starter only in two of his four NBA years? No all star appearances?

A block a game isn't bad.

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