Re: If it actually didn't happen, Jordan stans to this day would swear.....
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Originally Posted by juju151111
hmm thats funny because ESPN loves to talk about him.
I don't have ESPN (thank god). I never hear ANYONE talk about MJ, because nobody cares any more. He was a basketball player, he didn't do any thing to make the world a better place and therefore his memory will soon be gone.
Re: If it actually didn't happen, Jordan stans to this day would swear.....
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Originally Posted by db23
Range was never a weakness, Jordan clearly said in an interview in around 1990 he never wanted to be a 3 point shooter as he felt it takes away from your game when you rely on it.If you left him open he would more than likely drain it, that isnt a weakness.
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't he shoot <30% from 3? That is called a weakness.
Re: If it actually didn't happen, Jordan stans to this day would swear.....
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Originally Posted by Mdog1
I don't have ESPN (thank god). I never hear ANYONE talk about MJ, because nobody cares any more. He was a basketball player, he didn't do any thing to make the world a better place and therefore his memory will soon be gone.
Re: If it actually didn't happen, Jordan stans to this day would swear.....
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Originally Posted by db23
Range was never a weakness, Jordan clearly said in an interview in around 1990 he never wanted to be a 3 point shooter as he felt it takes away from your game when you rely on it.If you left him open he would more than likely drain it, that isnt a weakness.
Sure, that's why he had multiple seasons shooting less than 20 % from the 3 point stripe.
Re: If it actually didn't happen, Jordan stans to this day would swear.....
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Originally Posted by juju151111
OK WTH HI HAter
The only people I hear talk abou MJ are his slurpers. I never hear or read anyone talk about MJ and his accomplishments.
MJ inspired people to play ball just as much as every other NBA great ever has. In the end he was a basketball player. He didn't cure disease, he wasn't Jesus (although if you listen to his stans you get a different story).
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Alot of the guys who came in to the league in early 80's hadnt grown up with a 3 point line and it had just been introduced in the nba and many felt like they were better players not relying on it.Jordan's first 4 years in the league he attempted 52,18,66,53, that averages out to about 0.6 attempts a game, he clearly didnt feel the need to use it when he could get a higher % shot whenever he wanted.Like the poster above me said Bird had a few 20% 3 point shooting seasons, largely because there hadnt been a 3 point line when he was growing up.
Re: If it actually didn't happen, Jordan stans to this day would swear.....
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Originally Posted by Mdog1
The only people I hear talk abou MJ are his slurpers. I never hear or read anyone talk about MJ and his accomplishments.
MJ inspired people to play ball just as much as every other NBA great ever has. In the end he was a basketball player. He didn't cure disease, he wasn't Jesus (although if you listen to his stans you get a different story).
I am pretty sure most MJ fans only talk about BB when refering to MJ. It sounds that way because he is the Goat.
Re: If it actually didn't happen, Jordan stans to this day would swear.....
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Originally Posted by Mdog1
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't he shoot <30% from 3? That is called a weakness.
Any season where he attempted more than a miniscule number of threes per game, he shot it well. He shot 37.6% in 1990 on 3 attempts per game, 35.2% in 1993 on 3 attempts per game, and 38.5+% in the 1991-1993 postseasons, including 39% on 4 threes per game in the '93 playoffs. This suggests that Jordan was a rhythm 3-pt shooter.
He also shot 42.7% and 37.4% in '96 and '97, but the line was shorter then, so we have no way of knowing what his actual percentage from 23'9" was those years. But like I said, any time he attempted more than like 1 three per game, he did just fine. You also can't call it a weakness, since it's not something that could be exploited -- Jordan could and did hit 3's, especially big threes.
Last edited by OldSchoolBBall : 04-12-2009 at 09:34 PM.
Re: If it actually didn't happen, Jordan stans to this day would swear.....
The only thread where you may see the Kobe fans support PB.
Why do you guys keep taking this bait. Please most people already know how good Jordan was. It should be time to stop debating this over and over again trying to convince the same trolls again.
Re: If it actually didn't happen, Jordan stans to this day would swear.....
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Originally Posted by PleezeBelieve
....what?
Let's get this started. I swear to God I'm a Jordan admirer, but the way some you act like this dude walked on water. Check yaselves. Acting like NO ONE from this era could beat or even compete with him. Disgraceful.
Now if Jordan hadn't lost a Dunk Contest in real life, YOU KNOW his fans would swear he could not be beat. They'd talk about his will to win, competitive drive..yadda..ya..ya.
What else.?
Hmm... most people would say that bron's stats are better cuz of his dimes/boards. Numbers say:
Bron
career:
7.0 rb 6.7 dimes 1.8 steals 0.9 blocks 3.3 TO 27.5 pts
47% field
best season: I say last year
age 23
7.9rb 7.2dimes 1.8ste 1.1blk 3.4to 30.0 pts
48% field
MJ
Career:
6.2rb 5.3dimes 2.3steals 0.8blk 2.7to 30.1pts 50% field
best season: I say 88-89 for pure sickness, he didn't lead the league in steals and or have 1.6 blocks in 87-88, but it's not as good to me
age: 25
8.0 tb 8.0 assists 2.9 st 0.8 blk (1.6 year before) 3.6 to 32.5 pts 54% field
Conclusion: Lebron is not close. Well, he's closeish, but not at any point where its debateable who's better. You've gotta consider at 23 MJ averaged 37 points. Then 35. Then 33. Bron's stats which are what you base Bron arguments on don't come close to MJ's.
Considering that MJ also did this as a guard also says something cuz guarding 1's and 2's you are always going to get less boards and blocks. Bron is the rare player that has a chance to be better then MJ and thats the biggest compliment I think he can get. People honestly do believe he could overtake him and I believe that too.
But he hasn't done it yet. And I don't go saying he needs x rings to be better. That's stupid. For Lebron to be better he's got to hit the point where he can say "If I'm on my game you beating me is luck and you know its luck. BTW, I'm 'always' on my game." He's shown signs of being that player. And he's developing. If Lebron finds 'his' Scotti Pippen (Mo is not it) I'm afraid its over for the rest of the NBA.
Bron has 'almost' gotten his mid-range game consistent. When he does that its game over anyway.
Hey, knock on wood, but you also have to remember. Grant Hill could have been better then Jordan and then he fell apart for a decade. His numbers were better then Jordan's and Bron's before he got hurt. A kid told me Grant Hill sucked the other day. :0 stupid kids
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