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Old 07-07-2010, 10:14 PM   #901
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Dean Koontz's Odd thomas is a really good read, highly recommend it

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Old 07-07-2010, 10:32 PM   #902
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I too, love Odd Thomas. The first 3 novels I really enjoyed, but the fourth one (Odd Hours) was a horridly sad dissapointment. It really held no story nor ending, and I hope the next installment makes some sense of that book.

Dean Koontz has really dissapointed me in his latest works.. and Im hesitant to explore any of his new stuff. The last Frankenstein book was a dissapointment.
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Old 07-07-2010, 10:38 PM   #903
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I too, love Odd Thomas. The first 3 novels I really enjoyed, but the fourth one (Odd Hours) was a horridly sad dissapointment. It really held no story nor ending, and I hope the next installment makes some sense of that book.

Dean Koontz has really dissapointed me in his latest works.. and Im hesitant to explore any of his new stuff. The last Frankenstein book was a dissapointment.

I feel the same about Stephen King, they both hit a point where their writing is still top notch but their story telling has fallen apart. their lastest books have been below average. But because of their name is practically a brand now, they sells are pretty high, its like they don't even try anymore.
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Old 07-10-2010, 11:10 PM   #904
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I feel the same about Stephen King, they both hit a point where their writing is still top notch but their story telling has fallen apart. their lastest books have been below average. But because of their name is practically a brand now, they sells are pretty high, its like they don't even try anymore.


I think Dean Koontz is trying to milk his 'brand name' for all its worth. He will create a book out of any flimsy idea. His novels, lately, are complete rush jobs. He has a novel out like everything 3 months.

If he really cares about not burning his name out, he should stop and meditate on good concepts and limit himself to a couple novels a year. If he continues with his current M.O. a lot of people will end up abandoning him as I am flirting with doing. Koontz really does seem to just be duplicating his previous work and rehashing the same ideas.

King is somewhat the same way.. but I cant really speak ill of him because I have enjoyed many of his 'modern' novels. I loved his Dark Tower series.. so I give him more room for error.
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Old 07-10-2010, 11:25 PM   #905
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I just started this one, 50 pages in, I was suppose to read it a long time ago but was flopping hard. Finally decided to give it a chance and its looking good so far

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Old 07-10-2010, 11:34 PM   #906
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I just started this one, 50 pages in, I was suppose to read it a long time ago but was flopping hard. Finally decided to give it a chance and its looking good so far


I would suggest you stop. Michael Crichton is an alarmist hack. The success of writers like him and the chick who wrote Twilight makes me fear for the future of the publishing industry.
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Old 07-10-2010, 11:38 PM   #907
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I would suggest you stop. Michael Crichton is an alarmist hack. The success of writers like him and the chick who wrote Twilight makes me fear for the future of the publishing industry.

He surely wasn't the best at what he did, but to compare Crichton with that twilight ***** is just insane and a really big stretch, she should seriously rot in hell. I'm going to still give the book a chance and see where it goes but when i start feeling I'm only reading the book for the sake of finishing it, I will stop.

thanks for the heads up tho
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I would suggest you stop. Michael Crichton is an alarmist hack. The success of writers like him and the chick who wrote Twilight makes me fear for the future of the publishing industry.

MC may not be a laureate.. But no way should he be compared to Stephenie Meyer.

Sure MC has delivered a good amount of duds but novels like Sphere, Jurassic Park, Disclosure, and The Rising Sun should gain him some measure of respect.
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MC may not be a laureate.. But no way should he be compared to Stephenie Meyer.

Sure MC has delivered a good amount of duds but novels like Sphere, Jurassic Park, Disclosure, and The Rising Sun should gain him some measure of respect.

I was partly exaggerating for effect. The point I was trying to bring up was "book phenomenals" like Twilight and Harry Potter have in large part changed the way publishing firms approach authors and books in an industry that has seen gradually decreasing profit margins.

But yes MC is infinitely better than Stephanie Meyer. Meyers writes like she's mentally handicapped.
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Old 07-11-2010, 12:06 AM   #910
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I like MC. I really liked Timeline. What the Hell was wrong with that book lol?

He definitely has some shit books, Next was awful, but I like quite a few of his books.

Edit- yeah, Twilight was seriously written horribly. Her writing was extremely redundant. It's a ****ing fantasy book, therefore lending itself to infinite possibility in how creative she can be with it. The story itself has potential at the roots, but she follows every single cliche in the book and makes a massive failure. She literally showed zero creativity, aside from making vampires sparkle like ****ing diamonds in the sun. Those books are literally mindless. Characters are boring for the most part.

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Old 07-11-2010, 12:11 AM   #911
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He definitely has some shit books, Next was awful, but I like quite a few of his books.

I felt that the concept behind Next was decent but his execution of the idea was horrid. The writing was worse than pedestrian. Its too bad that he never refined his writing because it would have been great to see along with his good story lines.
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Old 07-11-2010, 12:14 AM   #913
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I like MC. I really liked Timeline. What the Hell was wrong with that book lol?

He definitely has some shit books, Next was awful, but I like quite a few of his books.

Edit- yeah, Twilight was seriously written horribly. Her writing was extremely redundant. It's a ****ing fantasy book, therefore lending itself to infinite possibility in how creative she can be with it. The story itself has potential at the roots, but she follows every single cliche in the book and makes a massive failure. She literally showed zero creativity, aside from making vampires sparkle like ****ing diamonds in the sun. Those books are literally mindless. Characters are boring for the most part.


You know what's really funny?

here's an excerpt form the wiki entry on Twilight:

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According to the author, her books are "about life, not death" and "love, not lust".[15] Each book in the series was inspired by and loosely based on a different literary classic: Twilight on Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice, New Moon on Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet, Eclipse on Emily Brontė's Wuthering Heights, and Breaking Dawn on a second Shakespeare play, A Midsummer Night's Dream.[16] Meyer also states that Orson Scott Card and L. M. Montgomery's Anne of Green Gables series are a big influence on her writing.[13]

How could this woman be so delusional that she believes there's ANY connection between the dribble she's put on paper as compared to the works of Shakespeare, Austen, Orson SCott Card etc is pretty funny to me.
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I was partly exaggerating for effect. The point I was trying to bring up was "book phenomenals" like Twilight and Harry Potter have in large part changed the way publishing firms approach authors and books in an industry that has seen gradually decreasing profit margins.

But yes MC is infinitely better than Stephanie Meyer. Meyers writes like she's mentally handicapped.

MC has been around a lot longer then the twilight and Harry Potter series and a lot of people enjoy his books, especially time line. I hate the fame that the Harry Potter books have received but they are a decent read yet no where near a master piece like some people consider it to be.

And i fully agree that Stephanie Meyer has to be retarded and it sickens me why these teenie boppers are throwing their money away to watch this junk.
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Old 07-11-2010, 12:19 AM   #915
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I felt that the concept behind Next was decent but his execution of the idea was horrid. The writing was worse than pedestrian. Its too bad that he never refined his writing because it would have been great to see along with his good story lines.

Yeah, I definitely felt that he could have done better with it. Compared to his other works, I thought the concept was still weak (Aliens, Time travel, nanotechnology evolution, etc). In regards to the characters, he spread himself too thin, with too many characters. It's hard to get real attached to 10 different characters and really care what happens to them when they are spread out over 500 pages.
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