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Old 01-04-2011, 05:49 PM   #1261
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Are you being serious?????

No Reservations and Man vs. Food are on such opposite ends of the non-cooking Food-TV program spectrum, thats its not even fair for EITHER show to try to compare them.

Their personalities, their working knowledge of the preparation of food, and the cultural practices surrounding food, are on totally different wavelengths.

Not to take anything away from Man vs. Food (which I find myself watching all the time) but he isn't even in the same conversation with Anthony Bordain.

you are probably right about Bordain's technical prowess, although he's far from the best or most knowledgable chef on tv.

I just don't really like Bordain's self righteous, pseud-philosophical, hypocritical, I take myself too seriously, angst. In all the interviews I have seen him in, he's always coming off as someone who's above the celebrity chef fray even though that's the very niche he cashed in on.

i like man vs. food because it's a fun food show without any of the pretensions of more "cultured" food show like No reservations. The host of man vs. food seem like a legit non stuckup dude.
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Old 01-04-2011, 06:01 PM   #1262
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you are probably right about Bordain's technical prowess, although he's far from the best or most knowledgable chef on tv.

I just don't really like Bordain's self righteous, pseud-philosophical, hypocritical, I take myself too seriously, angst. In all the interviews I have seen him in, he's always coming off as someone who's above the celebrity chef fray even though that's the very niche he cashed in on.

i like man vs. food because it's a fun food show without any of the pretensions of more "cultured" food show like No reservations. The host of man vs. food seem like a legit non stuckup dude.

I'm not even talking about either of their technical prowess or their culinary abilities.... neither show features them cooking.

How would one know if Bordain is a great chef (other than the fact that he has ran various high-profile kitchens)?? His television show just follows him as he travels and eats awesome food.

As for Man vs. Food... don't get me wrong I watch that show all the time, and it is entertaining for what it is. However, "what it is" is something entirely different than No Reservations, so I don't see how or why they should be compared.
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:21 PM   #1263
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it was done to make it more accessible in the classroom, that it could be taught in more racially sensitive environments. this reasoning could set a dangerous precedent for the future.

That is disgusting to me. Are you to remove the n-word from all rap music because it's offensive? Can we remove slavery or war from the history books because it's offensive? Then answer is hell no. We should not pretend it never happened.

A lot of history has been changed, like a lot of people think Christopher Columbus discovered America. What about the people that were already living here? You see what happened when you start trying to soften up the truth.

The n-word is a very crucial word in the story of HuckFinn. It's use is satirical, and the word is used in the context to show how ignorant these characters are.

What they are doing is criminal. You should read this.

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...s-the-n-word/1
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:55 PM   #1264
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i'd recommend "kafka on the shore," but "norwegian wood" was pretty good too
Kafka is likely the next Murakami novel that Ill read. I have read that it has a similar allegorical meaning as End of the World. Some have even stated that it could be seen as a sort of sequel to it.. so that interests me.
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Old 01-05-2011, 12:17 AM   #1265
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I'm not even talking about either of their technical prowess or their culinary abilities.... neither show features them cooking.

How would one know if Bordain is a great chef (other than the fact that he has ran various high-profile kitchens)?? His television show just follows him as he travels and eats awesome food.

As for Man vs. Food... don't get me wrong I watch that show all the time, and it is entertaining for what it is. However, "what it is" is something entirely different than No Reservations, so I don't see how or why they should be compared.

For whoever decided to neg me for this response and claim they're the same style of show:

Sure, both shows travel around the country (or the world with Reservations) and seek out various foods local to the region being highlighted. From there on, the shows are very different in scope and context.

"No Reservation" focuses more on the culture and history surrounding local dishes and cuisines, while "Man vs. Food" has a main focal point of a "big food" challenge but also samples other staples of the local cuisine.

Another difference would be that Anthony Bourdain is a career chef, having worked in and ran many high-profile kitchens in NYC. Adam Richman is an actor and food enthusiast.

I'm not putting down either show, as they both fulfill different interests in my food-related entertainment and are watched very often, but to say they're the same kind of show is simply silly.

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Old 01-05-2011, 12:24 AM   #1266
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That is disgusting to me. Are you to remove the n-word from all rap music because it's offensive? Can we remove slavery or war from the history books because it's offensive? Then answer is hell no. We should not pretend it never happened.

A lot of history has been changed, like a lot of people think Christopher Columbus discovered America. What about the people that were already living here? You see what happened when you start trying to soften up the truth.

The n-word is a very crucial word in the story of HuckFinn. It's use is satirical, and the word is used in the context to show how ignorant these characters are.

What they are doing is criminal. You should read this.

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...s-the-n-word/1

Completely agree. I don't know how anyone can even imagine altering a masterpiece by a leading figure of American literature and history like Twain, much less educators who want to teach about this book. I would refuse to use the censored version of the text in my classroom if I were a teacher. Why do people want to sweep the word under the rug and act like it doesn't exist? It would benefits kids more to discuss things like this because, like it or not, it exists.

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Old 01-05-2011, 12:29 AM   #1267
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For whoever decided to neg me for this response and claim they're the same style of show:



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I didn't neg you if that's what you are thinking. It's clear to me that MvF and No reservations probably have different intended audiences and have different focus, low brow vs. high brow. I usually relate two together cause no reservations is always advertised during man vs. food. i watch that show whenever its on. my argument against bordain was also not really related to man vs food, just the man himself.
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Old 01-05-2011, 12:35 AM   #1268
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I didn't neg you if that's what you are thinking. It's clear to me that MvF and No reservations probably have different intended audiences and have different focus, low brow vs. high brow. I usually relate two together cause no reservations is always advertised during man vs. food. i watch that show whenever its on. my argument against bordain was also not really related to man vs food, just the man himself.

I wasn't insinuating you had negged me... even though it would make sense, except for the fact that it was worded like many other negs I've gotten from the Butt-Hurt Brigade

I understand why they're often thought of in the same context, as they feature an adult male who travels the country tasting regional cuisine, and they are some of the only food shows on the same station. I get it.

I can see why Bourdain could rub people the wrong way... I haven't seen any interviews or appearances outside of his show. I'm just totally jealous of him he has the best job. He travels the world eating awesome food, and gets paid and gets fame because of it.

His book thus far is pretty damn good though. Basically its by a chef, for the chefs of America, and anyone interested in the underbelly of the culinary world should check it out. I'm thoroughly enjoying it.
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Old 01-05-2011, 02:26 AM   #1269
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just for the articles.........of course.
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Old 01-05-2011, 02:29 AM   #1270
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just for the articles.........of course.

For me, its just for the T&A.

If I wanna read current event articles, I'll grab my weekly copy of the Economist.
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Old 01-05-2011, 02:35 AM   #1271
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I need to step up my reading. I am about to finish up my current book. No clue as to what book I'll read next.

Even though I f*cking hate the idea of 'New Years Resolutions," my current goal is to find more time to read.

I literally have a stack of books that I haven't yet made through, that really need some attention.
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Old 01-05-2011, 03:01 AM   #1272
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I have nothing but time to read, now that I am out of work. I've been on a real bender of things to make think and or use my brain in a variety of different ways. I think I might go find that seagull book that JB posted until I can find another longer book to read. I just have no clue which direction to go.

People are always saying (myself included):

"I wish I had time to read, but I just dont"

Literally fifteen minutes a day; instead of reading ESPN.com over dinner, I could pick up a book. Instead of watching 20 minutes of Sports Center before bed, I could pick up a book. Instead of d*cking around on my phone while taking a shit, I could read a book.

Whether people (myself included) realize it or not, they have plenty of time to read.... its simply a matter of doing it.
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Old 01-06-2011, 07:05 PM   #1273
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JLS is a short, easy read. You will be able to finish it one sitting.


Right now I'm reading a bio of John Winthrop for theology:

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Old 01-06-2011, 07:13 PM   #1274
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the best ghost story I have read so far, a must read for all horror fans!
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Old 01-06-2011, 07:14 PM   #1275
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