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Old 05-09-2009, 06:38 PM   #1
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Default Should the Lakers let Odom walk and pursue Artest?

Odom and Artest are both in the last year of their respective contracts. While Odom has provided them with key contributions, especially last season's run through the west, would the team be better off obtaining Artest as his replacement?

The biggest knock on Odom is his consistency. He's not a consistent defender or offensive player, but he can come up huge on the boards and if his shot is falling, he can be very dangerous anywhere on the court.

What you know you will get with Artest is 100% effort on both ends, especially defense. He can get trigger happy and has questionable shot selection, but I think if he was on a team where he wasn't needed to score that much like LA, he wouldn't have that mentality. With Houston, he is one of their best offensive weapons. He's also an underrated passer and is averaging 4 assists per game in the playoffs.

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Old 05-09-2009, 06:40 PM   #2
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Default Re: Should the Lakers let Odom walk and pursue Artest?

They should sign and trade Odom off for Kirk Hinrich. Fisher is aging and Hinrich would bring some much needed defensive toughness to the Lakers.
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Old 05-09-2009, 06:42 PM   #3
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Default Re: Should the Lakers let Odom walk and pursue Artest?

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They should sign and trade Odom off for Kirk Hinrich. Fisher is aging and Hinrich would bring some much needed defensive toughness to the Lakers.

Sounds good for the Lakers i guess.But the Bulls have Deng,Salmons and now Odom at SF.

And if he plays PF he is not the type of player who you could throw the ball into the post and watch them work,which is what the Bulls are looking for so idk if the Bulls use their trade bait on Odom.
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Old 05-09-2009, 06:43 PM   #4
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Default Re: Should the Lakers let Odom walk and pursue Artest?

You are an idiot if you think Artest is willing to go to LA at this point and you are an idiot if you don't think the Rockets will re-sign Artest.

In other words, you and your thread fail.
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Old 05-09-2009, 06:50 PM   #5
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Default Re: Should the Lakers let Odom walk and pursue Artest?

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You are an idiot if you think Artest is willing to go to LA at this point

Artest wants to win a championship more than anything, and he's stated that.

Artest said he would like to play alongside Kobe and respects his ability.

Would Ron rather go up against Kobe every year, or be his teammate? If LA beats Houston, then which team would give him the best shot at a ring?

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and you are an idiot if you don't think the Rockets will re-sign Artest.

First of all, you have no idea what the McGrady situation will be, and he's making over 23 mil next year. Their payroll will be close to 65 mil WITHOUT a new deal for Ron, which means if they want to keep him, they will have to shed salary or take a big hit with the lux tax.

The second part to this is that it's not just up to the team. If other high profile teams pursue Ron, the choice is HIS, not just Houston's.

So you assuming that A: the rockets will sign him, and B: that Ron only has eyes for Houston are two huge assumptions.

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In other words, you and your thread fail.
My thread was discussing LA's position, not Houston's, you moron.
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Old 05-09-2009, 06:50 PM   #6
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Default Re: Should the Lakers let Odom walk and pursue Artest?

Sign Odom to reasonable contract above MLE and then use him as trade bait for a piece you need.

Odom for Heinrich is not a bad idea.....
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Default Re: Should the Lakers let Odom walk and pursue Artest?

You guys can have Kaman & Thornton for Odom, Ariza & Powell
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Old 05-09-2009, 06:54 PM   #8
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Default Re: Should the Lakers let Odom walk and pursue Artest?

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Artest wants to win a championship more than anything, and he's stated that.

Artest said he would like to play alongside Kobe and respects his ability.

Would Ron rather go up against Kobe every year, or be his teammate? If LA beats Houston, then which team would give him the best shot at a ring?



First of all, you have no idea what the McGrady situation will be, and he's making over 23 mil next year. Their payroll will be close to 65 mil WITHOUT a new deal for Ron, which means if they want to keep him, they will have to shed salary or take a big hit with the lux tax.

The second part to this is that it's not just up to the team. If other high profile teams pursue Ron, the choice is HIS, not just Houston's.

So you assuming that A: the rockets will sign him, and B: that Ron only has eyes for Houston are two huge assumptions.


My thread was discussing LA's position, not Houston's, you moron.

Artest said that he wanted to stay in Houston and Morey said that he also wanted him to stay. I dont see why Rockets cant keep him.
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Old 05-09-2009, 06:57 PM   #9
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Default Re: Should the Lakers let Odom walk and pursue Artest?

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Artest said that he wanted to stay in Houston and Morey said that he also wanted him to stay. I dont see why Rockets cant keep him.
Artest wants to stay right now. Why would he say otherwise? Things might change after the season if he knows the Lakers want him.

Also, you say you don't see why Houston can't keep him. I just brought up two big issues: their salary situation and that it's Ron's choice which will be effected by who wants him. Just because you want a player doesn't mean he's magically going to stay. Houston must do some maneuvering to make an attractive offer for Ron.



And let's get this thread back on track. This was to discuss from LA's perspective the options. Would they be better suited to replace Odom with Artest?

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Old 05-09-2009, 06:59 PM   #10
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Default Re: Should the Lakers let Odom walk and pursue Artest?

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They should sign and trade Odom off for Kirk Hinrich. Fisher is aging and Hinrich would bring some much needed defensive toughness to the Lakers.

I'd actually like this deal for both teams. Fisher has been getting torched by faster point guards since 2001 and it seems to be getting worse now. Hinrich would be a much better option defensively.

For the Bulls, Odom could be a good weapon with his playmaking skills from the frontcourt, and would be a good fit in the up-tempo scheme they seem to be trying to run. The only negative is the Bulls might want to risk stunting Thomas' growth by pushing him to the bench for Odom. Not sure how Bulls fans would feel, but I'd love this deal for the Bulls.
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Old 05-09-2009, 07:03 PM   #11
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Default Re: Should the Lakers let Odom walk and pursue Artest?

Walton for sign and trade Artest...DO IT MITCH!!
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Old 05-09-2009, 07:04 PM   #12
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You are an idiot if you think Artest is willing to go to LA at this point and you are an idiot if you don't think the Rockets will re-sign Artest.

In other words, you and your thread fail.

He could go to a rival if it meant a ring. The reason I think Houston will re-sign him is because of how much Artest loves Adelman, not because he's just super loyal to the franchise or teammates or something. I mean, things have gone well, but he's only been there for one season.
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Default Re: Should the Lakers let Odom walk and pursue Artest?

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Odom and Artest are both in the last year of their respective contracts. While Odom has provided them with key contributions, especially last season's run through the west, would the team be better off obtaining Artest as his replacement?

The biggest knock on Odom is his consistency. He's not a consistent defender or offensive player, but he can come up huge on the boards and if his shot is falling, he can be very dangerous anywhere on the court.

What you know you will get with Artest is 100% effort on both ends, especially defense. He can get trigger happy and has questionable shot selection, but I think if he was on a team where he wasn't needed to score that much like LA, he wouldn't have that mentality. With Houston, he is one of their best offensive weapons. He's also an underrated passer and is averaging 4 assists per game in the playoffs.

Hell naw.... kinda dumb trade is that?

The ONLY player I'd trade for Odom straight up is KG.
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Old 05-09-2009, 07:11 PM   #14
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Default Re: Should the Lakers let Odom walk and pursue Artest?

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Hell naw.... kinda dumb trade is that?

The ONLY player I'd trade for Odom straight up is KG.
Perhaps you need to read that again. Both players are FREE AGENTS this offseason, meaning LA could let Odom walk and sign Artest to a deal.
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