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Old 03-03-2009, 11:17 PM   #1
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Default If Karl is here next year

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Old 03-04-2009, 01:20 PM   #2
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His job rests solely on how he performs this post season.

Another first round exit and he's gone. Second round, he'll likely stay til his contract is up.
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Old 03-04-2009, 06:56 PM   #3
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His job rests solely on how he performs this post season.

Another first round exit and he's gone. Second round, he'll likely stay til his contract is up.

Karl is from the "old school" in that playing the game according to the fundamentals is more important than winning. He tends to follow the philosophy of Larry Brown and other coaches of his era.

What they perhaps fail to understand is that in today's sports world, the emphasis is on winning. Very people understand or care about fundamentals. If you win you stay. If you lose you hit the road.

Karl's recent dealing with Melo is an excellent example of his philosophy. He would rather risk losing two games just to prove a point and make sure that players do things his way, rather than try to understand the emotions involved with trying to regain a players rhythm and strong desire to win. He made his point, but the team lost the two games. Now the players will "run" out of the game when there is a substitute which can easily shift the momentum to the opposing team who may be focusing on doing all it can to win.
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I want to see Karl coach his ideal, perfect team and see how far he could take them.
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:48 PM   #5
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I want to see Karl coach his ideal, perfect team and see how far he could take them.

Well, let's see: If he were coaching the Spurs he would find fault in Duncan and Parker, and cause them to give up. If he were coaching the Lakers he would find fault in Kobe, Gasol, and Odom and make them quit on him. If he were coaching the Celtics he would find fault in Pierce, Rondo, and Garnett. He has already caused problems in the past with Allen because he wouldn't play ball his way. So, I believe that perhaps the only player he wouldn't p### off would be his son Coby.

The guy probably means well, but his ego is just too huge, and he has to publicly humiliate his players to prove that he is better than them, in his mind. That approach does not work in the military, in industry, or anywhere else where you need people to work with you as a team to get the job done.
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Well, let's see: If he were coaching the Spurs he would find fault in Duncan and Parker, and cause them to give up. If he were coaching the Lakers he would find fault in Kobe, Gasol, and Odom and make them quit on him. If he were coaching the Celtics he would find fault in Pierce, Rondo, and Garnett. He has already caused problems in the past with Allen because he wouldn't play ball his way. So, I believe that perhaps the only player he wouldn't p### off would be his son Coby.

The guy probably means well, but his ego is just too huge, and he has to publicly humiliate his players to prove that he is better than them, in his mind. That approach does not work in the military, in industry, or anywhere else where you need people to work with you as a team to get the job done.

THIS THIS THIS!



Karl never works to get along with players on his team, he's the typical jerk boss. If you've never had a jerk boss you're one of them

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Old 03-07-2009, 11:00 PM   #7
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If there's another 1st round exit... he needs to leave. I don't understand how the FA would let him stay after that many first round loses in a row.
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Old 03-08-2009, 05:53 PM   #8
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Well, let's see: If he were coaching the Spurs he would find fault in Duncan and Parker, and cause them to give up. If he were coaching the Lakers he would find fault in Kobe, Gasol, and Odom and make them quit on him. If he were coaching the Celtics he would find fault in Pierce, Rondo, and Garnett. He has already caused problems in the past with Allen because he wouldn't play ball his way. So, I believe that perhaps the only player he wouldn't p### off would be his son Coby.

The guy probably means well, but his ego is just too huge, and he has to publicly humiliate his players to prove that he is better than them, in his mind. That approach does not work in the military, in industry, or anywhere else where you need people to work with you as a team to get the job done.


So i guess phil jackson is a bad coach too? lol the greatest coach in the history of the game calls out his players through the media constantly yet u bash Karl for doing it.

Man you karl bashers are a joke.
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Old 03-09-2009, 03:20 PM   #9
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If there's another 1st round exit... he needs to leave. I don't understand how the FA would let him stay after that many first round loses in a row.
And with this recent garbage ball they're playing, I went from expecting 2nd round/WCF to almost a guaranteed 1st round exit.
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Old 03-09-2009, 03:23 PM   #10
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So i guess phil jackson is a bad coach too? lol the greatest coach in the history of the game calls out his players through the media constantly yet u bash Karl for doing it.

Man you karl bashers are a joke.
The thing with PJ is that he has a great relationship with Kobe. Every great team has a great star-coach relationship (Jackson/kobe, pop/duncan, doc/pierce, byron scott/cp3). Melo and Karl's relationship is so contrived, it's hard to take them serious, and if your star and coach aren't getting along, it hurts the chemistry.
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:42 PM   #11
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The thing with PJ is that he has a great relationship with Kobe. Every great team has a great star-coach relationship (Jackson/kobe, pop/duncan, doc/pierce, byron scott/cp3). Melo and Karl's relationship is so contrived, it's hard to take them serious, and if your star and coach aren't getting along, it hurts the chemistry.


True, It probaly is time for Karl to leave but who out there is a better coach? From 2nd seed to 7-8 seed in like a week is a joke. Firing Karl will probaly just have an interm headcoach put in place who are all NC guys who coach the same as Karl.

On the other hand, his stubborn and egotistical coaching seems to be taming JR smith and turning him into a reliable player as of late does it not? You dont coach in this league for 20 years with out being good.
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Old 03-09-2009, 05:21 PM   #12
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True, It probaly is time for Karl to leave but who out there is a better coach? From 2nd seed to 7-8 seed in like a week is a joke. Firing Karl will probaly just have an interm headcoach put in place who are all NC guys who coach the same as Karl.

On the other hand, his stubborn and egotistical coaching seems to be taming JR smith and turning him into a reliable player as of late does it not? You dont coach in this league for 20 years with out being good.

In all fairness to George Karl, he is hampered by the lack of a reliable backup PF or Center. For financial reasons, Nuggets management decided against bringing in a banger to backup Nene and KMart and now they are paying the price for that decision. With KMart out of the lineup, they have no enforcer. Birdman is exciting, but, he is not a defensive force. The Nugs could've signed Juwan Howard for little of nothing but decided not to. During the trading season, they didn't even come close to pursuing a big man. Now if Nene also gets hurt, they may as well pack it in.

To Karl's credit, he asked for a backup big man, but, Nuggets management refused to do so, to stay under the salary cap. The Nuggets will probably rebound because they have a weak schedule, but, I don't see them going very far in the playoffs due to a weak bench.
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Old 03-09-2009, 10:46 PM   #13
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True, It probaly is time for Karl to leave but who out there is a better coach? From 2nd seed to 7-8 seed in like a week is a joke. Firing Karl will probaly just have an interm headcoach put in place who are all NC guys who coach the same as Karl.
Jeff Van Gundy, He's gotta coach eventually. Or rumor has it Tom Thibodeau might be looking for a HC position next season
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Old 03-11-2009, 02:21 PM   #14
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How strong is karl in denver organization?
read on some other forum that melo gets traded if nuggets wont make second round?? thats pretty stupid..
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:55 PM   #15
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I hate to say it but I agree.. Karl will go if another first round exit. It is management's fault also since the did not go out and sign a backup for Kmart and Nene. So if Karl goes so should the upper management they should share some of the blame also.
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