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Old 05-19-2009, 06:40 AM   #16
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Default Re: NBA heights: Griffin's size isn't in question anymore...

Thabeet > Griffin

...as far as the Thunder are concerned. They need an impact defensive player moreso than a offensive option...unless they trade Durant which I'm not opposed to them doing.
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Old 05-19-2009, 06:43 AM   #17
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unless they trade Durant which I'm not opposed to them doing.
Why the hell would they do that?
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Old 05-19-2009, 08:00 AM   #18
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Thabeet > Griffin

...as far as the Thunder are concerned. They need an impact defensive player moreso than a offensive option...unless they trade Durant which I'm not opposed to them doing.

We would sign and trade Gordon for durant
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Old 05-19-2009, 08:52 AM   #19
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Default Re: NBA heights: Griffin's size isn't in question anymore...

Height in many ways is very overrated when it comes to body type. I say when you're within +/- two inches of where you are then whatever. Even if he did measure 6-7, he has a great body in terms of broad and strong shoulders and a good base. I think that's way more important than what your actual height ends up being.
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:06 AM   #20
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Default Re: NBA heights: Griffin's size isn't in question anymore...

It doesn't bother me. He was still going to be the number 1 pick and he was still going to play the 4 for whatever team drafted him, whether he was 6'7 or 6'10.

He's got a great pair of shoulders on him (broad and high), he's got long arms, he's definitly got the athleticism, he's got a lot of muscle on him and he works harder than pretty much any one. His height really had no impact on whether he goes as the number 1.
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:38 AM   #21
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Default Re: NBA heights: Griffin's size isn't in question anymore...

If the Knicks somehow get the number 1 pick in this draft, it would save the franchise. Ever since we picked Ewing, we've had almost a curse of sorts when it comes to players. Mostly overpaid, unenthusiastic underachievers.
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:58 AM   #22
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Default Re: NBA heights: Griffin's size isn't in question anymore...

6`9 is just above the average PF average height of Today 6`8

Back in the 80s and 90s

Classical PF:

*Bob Petit the 1st Pure PF

6`8 and 6`9 Stocky Strong Built PFs (when contact and strength was allowed) where the common:

Buck Williams, Terry Cummings, Michael Cage, Otis Thorpe, Charles Oakley, Ac Green, Karl Malone, Rick Mahorn, Tyrone Hill...the typical PF

*Carlos Boozer is very much one of those classic types...
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Running PFs

James Worthy
Larry Nance
Ralph Sampson
Charles Barkley
Karl Malone
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FCs:

*Elvin Hayes probably FC

There was also space for 6`10-6`11 ft Leaner Long Wing Spamed Shot Blocking PFs

Kevin McHale, Roy Tarpley, Dale Davis, Danny Manning, Dale Davis, Vin Baker, Tom Gugliotta (had some SF Game!), Chris Gatling

There was also space for the...

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CFs:

Who by nature have a Cs Game and Height but can play or resemble PFs do their Skilled Post Games and SHooting Touch.

7`0 Jack Sickma, 7`0 Kevin Willis, even 6`11 1/2 Patrick Ewing and 6`10 1/2 Hakeem Olajuwon.

* 6`11 3/4 Tim Dunncan is the Last of that Kind

*Most Where Moved to PF because of the addition of another C

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Then we also have the Freaks of Nature whom are sometimes hard to explain

6`11 Larry Nance whose Game was SF Offensive but Defensively FC, Strength Wise almost PF and Height more like a FC

6`9 James Worthy whose Game was SF but whose Strength and Height was PF-like...so PF

7`4 Ralph Sampson whose Game and Body is SF trapped with a Cs Height...Result: Put him at PF

6`4 3/4 Charles Barkley whose Game Form is that of a Center-Guard trapped with a Gs Height...Result: Put him at the PF

*Best Rebounder Inch for Inch

6`11 Tom Chambers whose Game Form is that of a SG Break Wise-SF Skillwise but whose height is that of a C or CF

6`11 Sam Perkins whose game is that of a SG but whose Height is that of a CF or C and Strength tht of a PF

6`6 3/4 Dennis Rodman. Whose Game was Typically PF Wise Defensively but Capable of Guarding SFs-PFs and Cs. His Weight was SG-SF.

*Best Defender of All Time Pount for Pound/Inch Per Inch
*Best Rebounder Pount for Pound

6`10 Derrick Coleman whose game is that of G-SF but trapped in a Cs Body and with a CFs height...Result: Put him at the PF

6`9 1/2 Shawn Kemp: whose Body and Break Game is that of SG but whose Heigh and Strength are that that of PF...so PF

6`9 1/2 Chris Webber: whose Body and Height is a Typical Classic PF but whose Handles and Game Form are that of a SF...so PF

6`8 Antony MasoN: whose Body and Height is that of Typical PF but whose Handles and Game are that of G-SF



*7`0 Kevin Garnett and
**7`0 Dirk:

Last of this Kind:

*A C-SF-G Defensively Game Wise but Offensive a typical SF. Trapped with a SF Weight and Cs Height but Strongh enough to Play PF
**A SG with a C Built Height and Weight Wise. Strong Enough to Play PF


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PF is the most difficult position in Basketball to Play...

Also the most difficult to qualify..because according to the book it is supposed to be just a Rebounder-Then a Shot Blocker-Then a Put Back Scorer or Close Finisher: but whose style of play has Varied the Most of Any Position Over the Years.

Reason why classifications such as

Classic PF
Running PF
FCs
CFs

Are the Most Exact

They All Are Great but Depend on What the Players that Sorround Your Team

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Old 05-19-2009, 10:41 AM   #23
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Default Re: NBA heights: Griffin's size isn't in question anymore...

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Thabeet > Griffin

...as far as the Thunder are concerned. They need an impact defensive player moreso than a offensive option...unless they trade Durant which I'm not opposed to them doing.

Impact defensive player based on what? He'll block shots, no question about it. But so does Samuel Dalembert. Who also rebounds as well. A guy who abused and owned Thabeet was the beast from Pitt D.Blair. It exposed how weak Thabeet is when he gets to the next level. His is far behind offensively.

Impact defensive player? Down the road sure there is a good chance. As a rookie? Not even. You want to argue need (center) over PF (griffin)? Fine.

But nothing at all suggests Thabeet is better than Griffin. Unless you're just some typical go against the grain, whats popular to be "different". And in that you get a boner because you went left field with an opinion and that makes you feel good. Yeah I took a stand! I said something not many would say. There is no support or justification behind what I said but the theme is I'm different, I took a stand!

I'll look forward to you spamming the board with Blake Griffin topics dissing him and neglecting to mention Thabeet next season. Kinda like you do with Durant when you were a huge Greg Oden fan. Do you even talk about Oden anymore? Of course not.
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