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Old 05-20-2009, 09:37 PM   #16
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Default Re: Michael Beasley vs Blake Griffin

Griffin will be the first option at LAC?

Gordon, Randolph, Thorton... ?
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Old 05-20-2009, 09:43 PM   #17
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Griffin will be the first option at LAC?

Gordon, Randolph, Thorton... ?
Thats assuming they trade Randolph because no matter what team Randolph is on he has to be the 1st option.

There is no way they bring the #1 pick off of the bench, espescially on such a horrible team like the Clippers looking to sell tickets & generate interest for this season.

In the last 20 years name a #1 pick who was successful coming off of the bench in his rookie year?
Kwame?
Bargnani?
Oden?

You just dont do that, if hes the #1 pick you give him the chance to become a factor as a starter for your team.
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Old 05-20-2009, 09:43 PM   #18
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one more reason to make fun of my name..
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Old 05-20-2009, 09:49 PM   #19
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Default Re: Michael Beasley vs Blake Griffin

Can someone point out what Griffin does better on the court compared to Beasley? The only thing I have noticed is rebounding.
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Old 05-20-2009, 09:53 PM   #20
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Default Re: Michael Beasley vs Blake Griffin

Griffin is scary
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Old 05-20-2009, 09:59 PM   #21
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Default Re: Michael Beasley vs Blake Griffin

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Can someone point out what Griffin does better on the court compared to Beasley? The only thing I have noticed is rebounding.
Better court vision, he could pass out of a double team
Plays with more intensity
Runs the court better
Finishes stronger around the basket
Rebounds better(actual boxing out technique)
Blocks more shots


You should have watched Blake Griffin this season, he played like a man amongst boys while facing very good competition which is why hes going #1 no matter what.
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Old 05-20-2009, 10:01 PM   #22
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Better court vision, he could pass out of a double team
Plays with more intensity
Runs the court better
Finishes stronger around the basket
Rebounds better(actual boxing out technique)
Blocks more shots


You should have watched Blake Griffin this season, he played like a man amongst boys while facing very good competition which is why hes going #1 no matter what.
Very good?

Last time I checked, NBA>NCAA...
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Old 05-20-2009, 10:43 PM   #23
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Default Re: Michael Beasley vs Blake Griffin

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Better court vision, he could pass out of a double team
Plays with more intensity
Runs the court better
Finishes stronger around the basket
Rebounds better(actual boxing out technique)
Blocks more shots


You should have watched Blake Griffin this season, he played like a man amongst boys while facing very good competition which is why hes going #1 no matter what.


The same was said about Beasley dominating his competition, and the question was will it be able to translate to the NBA.

Furthermore, Beasley runs the court far better then Blake. I've watched Blake and he often positions himself far to low on a break, and can't really run one as well as Beasley.

Both are shocking passers.

More intesity? Who cares about that, all that matters is final product. See KG and Duncan for example.

Beasley averaged more blocks in college, as well as steals.

Beasley finished at a higher percentage around the rim I believe (I will try to find the link that said so).

So once again, it has basically come down to Griffin being a better rebounder and that's it.
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Old 05-20-2009, 10:51 PM   #24
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Default Re: Michael Beasley vs Blake Griffin

All Griffin did in college was overpower college kids with his power and athletism. He wont get away with half the shyt he did in college. You're not gonna bully anyone for buckets.
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The same was said about Beasley dominating his competition, and the question was will it be able to translate to the NBA.

Furthermore, Beasley runs the court far better then Blake. I've watched Blake and he often positions himself far to low on a break, and can't really run one as well as Beasley.

Both are shocking passers.

More intesity? Who cares about that, all that matters is final product. See KG and Duncan for example.

Beasley averaged more blocks in college, as well as steals.

Beasley finished at a higher percentage around the rim I believe (I will try to find the link that said so).

So once again, it has basically come down to Griffin being a better rebounder and that's it.
Your love for Michael Beasley is impregnable, its like you are his agent.

Beasley does not run the court well for a SF/PF, thats not even arguable unless through total bias/ignorance for the truth.
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:51 AM   #26
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Default Re: Michael Beasley vs Blake Griffin

blakes attitude, intensity, aggression, hustle, attention to detail, etc. whatever you wanna call it is so far beyond beasley's its not even a comparison and then combined with the fact that he's a full 2 inches bigger than Beasley, I dont see how anyone would take Beasley to start a team right now ahead of Griffin.

If Beasley had brains and actually showed some interest in playing? Sure, maybe it'd be debatable. But he hasn't, so its not.
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:24 AM   #27
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Old 05-21-2009, 01:32 AM   #28
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Default Re: Michael Beasley vs Blake Griffin

Griffin will have the better rookie season and career. He's a legit power forward, he'll be given more playing time to develop and he's much more athletic.
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Old 05-21-2009, 07:15 AM   #29
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Default Re: Michael Beasley vs Blake Griffin

I've watched 40+ Miami games this season. Beasley is disappointing, and I think his overall long-term impact is very much limited by his physique. He's not big enough or strong enough to be a power forward, particularly on the defensive end, but also offensively it leads to him getting bullied around and forces him to take weak shots.

Then people suggest he could be a small forward - but again, he's not athletic or fast enough to cope defensively (although offensively, depending on who guards him, he might find it easier).

I think Blake has the body that will enable him to develop into a better long-term prospect - he just needs to work hard on his ability to make best use of his athletic talent.
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^Bingo. The key difference is that Griffin has legit power forward size. Beasley is a tweener and will need to develop a better J to play the 3.
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