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Old 05-21-2009, 10:22 PM   #61
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Default Re: Why do people pretend Ricky Rubio is so unathletic?

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In order

1. Height
2. Vertical
3. Wingspan
4. Speed
5. Weight


of importance



That depdens on what style u play and what teamates you have around

86 Celtics

Parish a Great Leaper?
Bird a Great Leaper?
McHale a Great Leaper?
DJ a Great Leaper?
Danny Ainge a Great Leaper?
Walton a Great Leaper?

Where any of them Great Fast & Potent Players? None..
Extreamly QuicK? Maybe Danny...thats it?


Height..Yes...ONLY on the Frontline

Strength? Somewhat on the Frontline...

In the Backcourt Heigth or Strength? Not Really...

(as i say a Great Offensive, Game Creating/Passing,Rebounding and Defensive Frontline wil always WIN another Team doesn`t have those elements...but ofcourse it was a Time of Real Competitive B-Ball unlike the early 90s and 2000s)

BUT..

FUNDAMENTALS, PASSING GAME, B-BALL IQ, INTELLIGENCE AND SHOOTING % OFF THE CHARTS!


Precisely What the NBA IS MOST LACKING OFF..the Last 15 years...strangely!.....

*Those elements ar WAY MORE IMPORTANT...(KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE GAME 1st..a Dear Can Run and Jump but that doesn`t mean HE CAN PLAY!

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Old 05-21-2009, 10:22 PM   #62
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Default Re: Why do people pretend Ricky Rubio is so unathletic?

looks like he has decent height for a PG. Probably about as athletic as Nash/Miller.

The thing he has going for him is it looks like he has good co-ordination with those long chimp arms.
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Old 05-21-2009, 10:55 PM   #63
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It is true that black people score lower on IQ tests on average. But that's attributed to the much higher levels of poverty that they live in. On average, whites and blacks in poverty score about the same on IQ tests. And the average middle/upper class blacks score equal to their white counterparts.

There's also an argument to be made for the cultural biases on those tests.

So there.

Then again Afroamericans have hadve had 400 years of Slavery (plus More...because in Africa there was Slavery and They Picked The Strongest, Most Fertaile Slaves even before the White Man arrived to Africa) soo its more like Over 400 years) rooted in Families Undergoind Constant Excersise in the Farms, Hard Labour, Out In The Outside, Defending Terrains, Living In Nature Breathing the Sane etc instead of Sitting Down on a Desk with a Fat Belly Smocking cigarrs for 12 hours a day for 40 Years of Your Life Undergoind Mental Stress that will effect your Sleeping Patterns, Body Health, Sexual Activity etc. So This labo that has beeng going for the last 1000 has helped that sector of Africans Now African Americans..being at average Stronger than White Ameican race (Per Person). Same in Africa people have alot of physical labor because of the harsh conditions, no water, not great crop terrains etc...but

If one analyizes the same for White Europeans of the Past they where as Strong or Stronger and that would be the same for American Whites if they where forced to go under the same conditions how strong-potenet etc for Years or Years they would be...especially with American Vitamins and Natural Foods they had back then in the 17, 18t and 19th centruy at average better than the Europeans..

Wolrds Strongest Man Comeptition is Dominated by people from East and Northern Europe

Bulgarians, Latvians, Russians, Germans, Polish, Norway, Denmark, Sweden etc

Soccer is dominated by Mosty White People (Germans, Italians, English, Uruguay, Argentina, Dutch, before Poland etc...and then Black and Mullatos: Brazil, France etc It is obvious that Blacks/Mulattos have the Average Leap and Potence at a Superior Level that Whites but Whites have the Superior, Coordination, Feet Touch, Mental Capacity and Precision Under Pressure etc...

Worlds Strongest Man? Whites...

Most Olympican Athletic Whites...Black Cloose...

Basball? Whites dominated historically

Hockey? Whites

Tennis? Whites

Vale Todo? Whites

etc etc..

It all Depends on Many Cultura-Climate and Way Of Life Factores. White have Strength, Skills, Fundamentals, Sports IQ, Coordination, Mental Stability etc at Average Better than Blacks...while Blacks have the Better Agility, Potence, Quickness and 1 on 1 Games in Most Team Sports...but this is rooted in the WAYS OF LIFE OR CULTURE-CLIMATE-WARS-WAY OF LIVING etc that region wen`t through...if other races where put under those Conditions for 100s of years they would evolve similarly eliminating some of their Natural Abilities While Adding New Ones and Substracting other Natural abilities etc...

Today in basketbal...IN THE MOST UNFUNDAMENTALLY SOUND ERA EVER ..WHERE B-BALL IQ, PASSING GAME, INTUITION, SKILLS (not playground 1 on 1 talent stuff) is Vastly Overlooked.

Dirk: Long Distance7`0 Shooter better than Any other 7`0 Black Shooter Player....but that WHY DOESNT THIS GET HYPED? ..because...

Simply...What is More Fun? What is More Marketeable for the Average NBA Fan (who knows less than the cultured one)?

DUNKS, JUMPS, QUICK LEAPS,...PLAYGROUND STUFF...etc.

NOT FUNDAMENTALS....

Yeah its Cool to Add some excitement and applaud the Athletic Capacity of the Athleabe but thats JUST 1 FACED OF THE GAME...OF MANY OTHERS...

So Stay of the Race Thing...That Depends on Evolution of People Moving From Different Areas, Climates, Regions, Situations of Ways of Lifes Underging For Years and Years etc etc..

Magic and Bird destroyed the Black and White Archetypes:

"There WIll Never Be a White, Slow, UnLpeaing, Akward Looking Dude to Domainte the Game? Well There Was! BIRD

"Ohh That Globe Trotter thing doesn`t Work in the NBA"...Magic Appeared and It Worked (Cousty a White Man Started, Then The Globe Trotters and Pete Evolved It to the Highest Level!: Bird influenced alot from him)

"Ohh a Slow-Not Much of a Leaper...Black Man Will Always....be Set Appart by the Stereo Typical Black Athletic Player"....Magic and put Appart all those Black Dunkers and Leapers..

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Because he's white. The average NBA basketball fan in the US is blatantly racist against white players.
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:05 PM   #65
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looks like he has decent height for a PG. Probably about as athletic as Nash/Miller.

The thing he has going for him is it looks like he has good co-ordination with those long chimp arms.

That's the key. The dude's arms are Barbosa-like, and he's already 6'4 or something, so even if he winds up being too slow to guard point guards, he might even be able to switch over to shooting guards. Sure, he's not particularly muscular, but he's also a guard (so muscles are less important) and 18, an age when hardly anyone is particularly muscular.
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He is not athletic can't jump worth sh!t.

This is the main reason. No one would call him unathletic if he could throw it down like D-Rose. Whether or not he does it in games is irrelevant. The point is, Ricky Rubio has not shown that he can dunk like D-Rose, period. It's no coincidence that whenever someone says 'Oh, [insert player name] is SOOO athletic" the person is almost always a great dunker.
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That's the key. The dude's arms are Barbosa-like, and he's already 6'4 or something, so even if he winds up being too slow to guard point guards, he might even be able to switch over to shooting guards. Sure, he's not particularly muscular, but he's also a guard (so muscles are less important) and 18, an age when hardly anyone is particularly muscular.

Yeah. He's not even small, which is something people keep saying too "he's undersized". His official listings are 6-4 190 6-9 wingspan. Of course every damn site lists him wrong at 180 so whatever.
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:16 PM   #68
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Default Re: Why do people pretend Ricky Rubio is so unathletic?

I don't why people are going into all this talk about mental capacity. What if I say that men are smarter than women? Sure, I could say it all I want, but I could never prove it. It's just a pointless thing to say.
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I don't why people are going into all this talk about mental capacity. What if I say that men are smarter than women? Sure, I could say it all I want, but I could never prove it. It's just a pointless thing to say.

Actually this has been shown..well kind of. Men are smarter and dumber.. Men have a higher rate of genius and a higher rate of mental retardation.
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Default Re: Why do people pretend Ricky Rubio is so unathletic?

Ricky Rubio is not a horrible athlete but he certainly isn't a good one either.

Rubio has little upper and lower body strength, not much in the vertical department, and his straight line speed is pretty average. However, Rubio does have excellent body control/coordination.

Considering that majority of people judge athleticism based on strength, lateral quickness, and speed it is not hard to understand why Rubio is thought of so lowly.

That is unless you're a Ricky Rubio sycophant who can't acknowledge the obvious.
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Ricky Rubio is not a horrible athlete but he certainly isn't a good one either.

Rubio has little upper and lower body strength, not much in the vertical department, and his straight line speed is pretty average. However, Rubio does have excellent body control/coordination.

Considering that majority of people judge athleticism based on strength, lateral quickness, and speed it is not hard to understand why Rubio is thought of so lowly.

That is unless you're a Ricky Rubio sycophant who can't acknowledge the obvious.

so are you saying he has below average lateral movement...that is just crazy talk.
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Rubio's lateral quicks are pretty average. Rubio is an elite prospect DESPITE his athelicism not because of it.
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