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Old 05-21-2009, 10:27 PM   #181
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Except for Rubio. Him and Gilbert Arenas cannot play together. Gilbert will demand the ball too often and won't let Ricky be the distributer he's capable of being.

Gil's played off the ball before, especially when Larry Hughes was with the team. The Wizards usually played him next to Antonio Daniels or Deshawn Stevenson, too, both of whom could handle point guard duties in spurts while Gil ran around screens and set up on the wing. The only time Gil's had to be the main ball handler on the Wizards was when Jarred Jeffries sort of played shooting guard on offense with Caron Butler switching over to two guard duties on defense. Plus, there'd be time for everyone to get adjusted, since I don't know that Rubio would come in and immediately start.

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if the trade goes down, arenas would probably be traded.

Considering his contract and recent injury history, I doubt anyone would take him. Maybe if he's averaging 28 a game again around the trade deadline they could swing something, but I don't even know who they'd target.
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:00 PM   #182
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So ..who here reads Catalan and can translate?

http://64.233.161.132/translate_c?hl...9w11UvtpQ-x0LA

that's the google translation

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Old 05-21-2009, 11:06 PM   #183
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McGee is a hell of a lot to give up to move up 2 spots.
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:11 PM   #184
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Ok here is what the article says in summation.

Ricky wants to be drafted this year, but he might want to stay one more year in Europe to grow as a player. He really wants to experience the Euroleague Final Four which is a big thing for a European basketball player and it will allow him one more year to mature as a player. This is what Rudy Fernandez did, he was drafted, but stayed in Europe for a year before coming over. Marc Gasol did the same thing as well.

In order to pay off his buyout one of two things need to happen. He needs to be selected with one of the top two or three picks in order to get a high enough salary to start paying off the buyout or be selected by a team in NY, LA, Chicago,Celtics who have huge media markets that will allow him the exposure to pay off his buyout with endorsement deals.
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:15 PM   #185
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I wish the Clips could land both Rubio & Griffin.

Trade assets:

Deandre Jordan
Minnesota 1st rounder (next years)
Clips 1st rounder (next years)
Chris Kaman
Mike Taylor

Think anything can be done?
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:44 PM   #186
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I wish the Clips could land both Rubio & Griffin.

Trade assets:

Deandre Jordan
Minnesota 1st rounder (next years)
Clips 1st rounder (next years)
Chris Kaman
Mike Taylor

Think anything can be done?

They'd have to deal with Memphis or Oklahoma City, neither of which would really be interested. Maybe if you included both picks, Jordan, and a future first rounder or two Memphis would do it because of the money, but I don't know that LA would really want to give up that much.
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:46 PM   #187
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McGee is a hell of a lot to give up to move up 2 spots.

Yeah, on Bullets Forever they're talking about ways they could switch in Andray Blatche and either picks or expirers in order to keep McGee.
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:47 PM   #188
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I wish the Clips could land both Rubio & Griffin.

Trade assets:

Deandre Jordan
Minnesota 1st rounder (next years)
Clips 1st rounder (next years)
Chris Kaman
Mike Taylor

Think anything can be done?

Well, we did win the top 2 spots .

In reality, I could see the Thunder being interested in DeAndre, as I see him being a better prospect than Hill and if Rubio ends up available to them, it would mean Thabeet is gone.

DeAndre + Minny First + Protected 2010 Clips First (Lotto in 2010, Top 7 in '11, Top 3 in 2012, Unprotected After) could be something possible? Maybe the rights to Sofo, or Thornton if they want him.
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:49 PM   #189
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McGee is a hell of a lot to give up to move up 2 spots.
I agree, espescially when theres not so much to seperate the talent level beetween picks 3-10.

I raved about McGee's potential before and was flamed for it, he has the potential with the proper development to become one of the top C's in the NBA.

Who doesn't want an athletic C who can grab boards, block shots, finish strong at the basket and has range to the 3 point line?
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:53 PM   #190
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Well, we did win the top 2 spots .

In reality, I could see the Thunder being interested in DeAndre, as I see him being a better prospect than Hill and if Rubio ends up available to them, it would mean Thabeet is gone.

DeAndre + Minny First + Protected 2010 Clips First (Lotto in 2010, Top 7 in '11, Top 3 in 2012, Unprotected After) could be something possible? Maybe the rights to Sofo, or Thornton if they want him.
Nobody wants Sofo, hes a fat 6'9 Greek C.

Thunder might do that deal btw, but they don't have interest in Jordan considering they passed on him twice when he fell in the 2008 NBA Draft in order to select Ibaka & DJ White.
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Old 05-22-2009, 12:03 AM   #191
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I agree, espescially when theres not so much to seperate the talent level beetween picks 3-10.

I raved about McGee's potential before and was flamed for it, he has the potential with the proper development to become one of the top C's in the NBA.

Who doesn't want an athletic C who can grab boards, block shots, finish strong at the basket and has range to the 3 point line?

Completely agree. His potential is through the roof, he just has to work for it.
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Old 05-22-2009, 12:04 AM   #192
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Nobody wants Sofo, hes a fat 6'9 Greek C.

Thunder might do that deal btw, but they don't have interest in Jordan considering they passed on him twice when he fell in the 2008 NBA Draft in order to select Ibaka & DJ White.

Is it true he's 375 pounds? God, that's ridiculous, he makes Eddy Curry look svelt. Why is he even being discussed as a possible trade asset? I know he used to be good, but so was Shawn Kemp.
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Nobody wants Sofo, hes a fat 6'9 Greek C.

Thunder might do that deal btw, but they don't have interest in Jordan considering they passed on him twice when he fell in the 2008 NBA Draft in order to select Ibaka & DJ White.

Of course. No one wants a nice big man prospect, who could be a solid bench player in the mold of a Brandon Bass/Big Baby.

I know the Thunder passed on DeAndre for those two, but how has Ibaka worked out for them? Haven't heard anything about him doing anything, and DJ White is a 6'8/6'9, DeAndre is a legit 6'11/7 feet, and his athleticism would perfectly with Durant/Westbrook/Livingston/Green.

Not sure if its enough for OKC, and I, personally, think thats too much to give up for Rubio as I'd rather go for a later pick and Maynor. Just threw it out there for discussion.
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Old 05-22-2009, 12:16 AM   #194
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Of course. No one wants a nice big man prospect, who could be a solid bench player in the mold of a Brandon Bass/Big Baby.
Im sorry but if hes so massively overweight to the point he can only average 9 minutes per game, and his effectiveness comes in short periods when hes fed the ball I dont see how he fills a Brandon Bass/Big Baby role.

Hes a fat 6'9 C who fell off from a MVP in his league to a turd on the bench in less than 4 years.


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I know the Thunder passed on DeAndre for those two, but how has Ibaka worked out for them? Haven't heard anything about him doing anything, and DJ White is a 6'8/6'9, DeAndre is a legit 6'11/7 feet, and his athleticism would perfectly with Durant/Westbrook/Livingston/Green.
Ibaka is only 19 and the purpose is to develop him in Europe for 3-4 years, he was drafted highly because he was just beginning his career in Europe where he can actually develop in an organized setting.
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Old 05-22-2009, 12:18 AM   #195
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Is it true he's 375 pounds? God, that's ridiculous, he makes Eddy Curry look svelt. Why is he even being discussed as a possible trade asset? I know he used to be good, but so was Shawn Kemp.

He's down to 365 now but he's 6-10 according to draft measurements not 6-9. He was 420 at the Olympics.
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