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Old 05-21-2009, 04:13 AM   #31
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Default Re: Rubio Doesn't Want To Go To Memphis or OKC?

Well I'll be damn, someone actually wants to go to Sacramento. Finally I can eat the bullet I've been saving.
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Old 05-21-2009, 04:14 AM   #32
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Default Re: Rubio Doesn't Want To Go To Memphis or OKC?

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Being talked about comes along with being a public figure. If I didn't want people talking about me, I wouldn't be trying to play basketball for the NBA.

The thing about the NBA is that he really has no choice right now. The draft process is simple, you go wherever you're picked. Do you not realize this? What makes him so special that he gets to pick what city he goes to? If you support players whining about where they go in the draft, then you're slow.

Why are you on an NBA forum if you're so against discussion on other people's life?


He does have a choice though, to stay in Spain. The NBA isn't the only logical destination for professional basketball players anymore.

In order to come to the NBA, he has to 1) pay most of his buyout, 8 million dollars worth, and 2) play for a franchise that has continually shown an unwillingness to spend money and make the smart moves it takes to contend. So why not just live comfortably in your home country, become a millionairre, and contend for championships?

You want someone to blame? Blame the NBA for awarding the most inept franchises with lottery picks. Who's idea was it to reward the Clippers with Blake Griffin, despite their routinely bad management decisions and player personnel?

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Old 05-21-2009, 04:14 AM   #33
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Default Re: Rubio Doesn't Want To Go To Memphis or OKC?

I wouldn't want to play for the Grizzlies either. They could be re-located at any time.

I'd have no problem playing for OKC though. Good young team and a cool city.
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Old 05-21-2009, 04:17 AM   #34
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He does have a choice though, to stay in Spain. The NBA isn't the only logical destination for professional basketball players anymore.

In order to come to the NBA, he has to 1) pay most of his buyout, 8 million dollars worth, and 2) play for a franchise that has continually shown an unwillingness to spend money and make the smart moves it takes to contend. So why not just live comfortably in your home country, become a millionairre, and contend for championships?

You want someone to blame? Blame the NBA for awarding the most inept franchises with lottery picks. Who's idea was it to reward the Clippers with Blake Griffin, despite their routinely bad management decisions and player personnel?
Like I said, if he doesn't like how the NBA draft process works, he can stay where he is. Number one of what you listed is true, but number 2, why does he deserve that kind of special treatment? So you feel he should be able to dictate where he goes because one team has a better agenda when it comes to winning than the other? I can't believe people are actually supporting this BS.

The draft process is the same almost everywhere. It's a balance of power. The weakest teams get the best players from the draft, and it works.

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Old 05-21-2009, 04:24 AM   #35
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Default Re: Rubio Doesn't Want To Go To Memphis or OKC?

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ungrateful guy, at least be happy that your gonna play in the best league in the world.

Hey Jr.

Daddy Kobe his father and his agent made similar claims before the 96 draft. Charlotte Hornets picked Kobe at 13. Then he was immediately traded for Vlade Divac.

Some people get what they want. Especially when they make it known.
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Old 05-21-2009, 04:25 AM   #36
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Default Re: Rubio Doesn't Want To Go To Memphis or OKC?

His agent doesn't know much about OKC. Small town, but not as depressing as Memphis the official DLeague of LA.
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Like I said, if he doesn't like how the NBA draft process works, he can stay where he is. Number one of what you listed is true, but number 2, why does he deserve that kind of special treatment? So you feel he should be able to dictate where he goes because one team has a better agenda when it comes to winning than the other? I can't believe people are actually supporting this BS.

The draft process is the same almost everywhere. It's a balance of power. The weakest teams get the best players from the draft, and it works.

Explain to me how the draft process works? The same teams are in the lottery every season. Every now and then a franchise drafts a true hero, think Lebron or Dwight, and manages to escape the cellar. But other than that it's a laundry list of familiar faces; the Clippers, Bucks, Pacers, Bobcats, Golden State, Minnesota, Memphis, Sacramento. Again and again these teams are rewarded for their ineptitude, and again and again they wind up praying to the ping-pong ball gods.

In premise, the lottery system sounds stellar. You give the struggling teams a better chance at getting the next superstar, thus halting any one small group of teams to continually dominate the league. But in practice it promotes tanking, rewards mediocre GM's, and forces the best young players to spend the first 4-5 years of their career playing for the L.A. Clippers of the universe.

Ricky Rubio and Yi are only the first peel of the banana. Soon enough a foreign league will emerge that's willing to pay American rookies bigger money than the rookie scale. And when it's that or the Memphis Grizzlies, learning Spanish/Greek/French doesn't sound so bad.
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Ricky Rubio and Yi are only the first peel of the banana.
What do they got in common?
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What do they got in common?

They both reportedly refused to play for certain teams. Yi's agent said he'd like Yi to play for a big market, and now this similar issue with Ricky.

Unless you meant what those two have in common with a banana. Well, Yi's the same color as a banana jp jp
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Explain to me how the draft process works? The same teams are in the lottery every season. Every now and then a franchise drafts a true hero, think Lebron or Dwight, and manages to escape the cellar. But other than that it's a laundry list of familiar faces; the Clippers, Bucks, Pacers, Bobcats, Golden State, Minnesota, Memphis, Sacramento. Again and again these teams are rewarded for their ineptitude, and again and again they wind up praying to the ping-pong ball gods.

The draft process works because you're giving the worst teams the best prospects. It would make no sense to give the best prospects in the draft to the good teams. How exactly would you like it to work?

The draft gives those teams that stuggle a chance to have a successful player and future. In each draft, there's only so many guys that will actually become a special talent. The draft is hit or miss. Another option teams have is to trade the draft picks for players already in the NBA. It's less lopsided to have the worst teams given the best talent from the draft than any other way.

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In premise, the lottery system sounds stellar. You give the struggling teams a better chance at getting the next superstar, thus halting any one small group of teams to continually dominate the league. But in practice it promotes tanking, rewards mediocre GM's, and forces the best young players to spend the first 4-5 years of their career playing for the L.A. Clippers of the universe.


Got a better way to do it? It's how things have work with sport drafts because it's really the only logical way to do it. A lot of those young players have gone to crappy places and made something of it. If they prove to be a dominant talent, teams will usually build on that. If a player turns out to be mediocre, then they're just as screwed as they were the previous seasons. It's not a reward, it's just fair.

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Ricky Rubio and Yi are only the first peel of the banana. Soon enough a foreign league will emerge that's willing to pay American rookies bigger money than the rookie scale. And when it's that or the Memphis Grizzlies, learning Spanish/Greek/French doesn't sound so bad.

Until that day, they need to just suck it up and stop complaining. The draft is what it is, no prospect should have the power to decide which city picks them. They know how the NBA works, if anything about it sounds unappealing, then don't join that league.

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They both reportedly refused to play for certain teams. Yi's agent said he'd like Yi to play for a big market, and now this similar issue with Ricky.

Unless you meant what those two have in common with a banana. Well, Yi's the same color as a banana jp jp
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They both reportedly refused to play for certain teams. Yi's agent said he'd like Yi to play for a big market, and now this similar issue with Ricky.

Unless you meant what those two have in common with a banana. Well, Yi's the same color as a banana
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The draft process works because you're giving the worst teams the best prospects. It would make no sense to give the best prospects in the draft to the good teams. How exactly would you like it to work?

The draft gives those teams that stuggle a chance to have a successful player and future. In each draft, there's only so many guys that will actually become a special talent. The draft is hit or miss. Another option teams have is to trade the draft picks for players already in the NBA. It's less lopsided to have the worst teams given the best talent from the draft than any other way.




Got a better way to do it? It's how things have work with sport drafts because it's really the only logical way to do it. A lot of those young players have gone to crappy places and made something of it. If they prove to be a dominant talent, teams will usually build on that. If a player turns out to be mediocre, then they're just as screwed as they were the previous seasons. It's not a reward, it's just fair.



Until that day, they need to just suck it up and stop complaining. The draft is what it is, no prospect should have the power to decide which city picks them. They know how the NBA works, if anything about it sounds unappealing, then don't join that league.

Think about this. Whenever a team that wasn't that bad to begin with gets the top pick, it's nothing but good things for the NBA. Examples: The Bulls draft Derrick Rose, the Magic use a high draft pick to draft Penny Hardaway, the Trail Blazers get Oden. Do any of these circumstances upset you?

I see nothing wrong with turning a decent team into a good/very good team via the draft, rather than allowing a mediocre GM to keep his job for 3 extra years under the guise of "building around their new top pick." Meanwhile, they're signing players like Baron Davis to huge, multi-year deals, burying their good young players on the bench, refusing to fire their much-maligned coach, etc.

So maybe the answer is to give every team except the leagues top-5 an equal chance at getting the top pick. This discourages tanking because top-5 teams will consider themselves contenders, and probably wouldn't intentionally lose just to have a 4 percent chance of getting the top pick.

Imagine a team like the Mavericks got the top pick? What's upsetting about that? Aren't you 100 times more psyched for next season if Blake Griffin is sharing a frontcourt with Dirk Nowitzki, rather than warming the bench while Mike Dunleavy plays Zack Randolph and Kaman?
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Default Re: Rubio Doesn't Want To Go To Memphis or OKC?

I predicted this was coming. Rubio must be so pissed. The two likely teams to pick him are either Memphis or OKC. OMG, that is worst case for Rubio.

Plus he's got a HUGE buyout. I predicted if he doesn't get the choice of places he wants to go, he'll simply stay in Spain, honor his contract there, and wait another year or two.....

This is the best chance for my Knicks to get Rubio. C'mon Memphis, #8 pick and Nate Robinson for #2.....
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