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Old 06-03-2009, 12:35 AM   #16
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Default Re: Rookie Shaq had a Better Max Vert than Dwayne Wade

You're a LIAR, Shaq's highest touch was a mere 12'4" even with his incredible 9'8" standing reach. Even a midget like 6'10" Olajuwon had a 12"6" highest touch. Ralph Sampson had a 12'11" highest touch from a standing jump.
I have NEVER EVER seen any evidence that Shaq was better than a B level jumper for a center and a C+ level jumper overall as a basketball player.

Shaq was as good a leaper as Odom in his prime BIG FRIGGIN' DEAL.
Brock Lesnar @ 301lbs had a much higher vertical leap and a FAR FAR better 40 time than Shaq ever did @ 301lbs.


Vince Carter 43" 8'11" 12'6"
Karl Malone 28" 9'2" 11'6"
Shaq 32" 9'8" 12'4"
Kobe Bryant 38" 8'10" 12'0"
Steve Francis 43" 8'5" 12'3"
Antonio McDyess 42" - -
Allen Iverson 41" - -
Shawn Kemp 40" (Seattle) - -
Rex Chapmann 39" - -
Desmond Mason 38" - -
Shaquille Oneal 32" - -
Lamar Odom 32" - -
Paul Pierce 38"
Shawn Marion 41"
Carmelo Anthony 41"
Ricky Davis 42"
Tracy McGrady 42"
Nate Robinson 43"
Jason Richardson 46"
James White 46"
Harold Miner 44"
Steve Francis 43"
LeBron James 44"
Fred Jones 42"

Legends:
Michael Jordan 48" (Chicago) 8'10" 12'5"
Dominique Wilkins 42" 9'0" 12'6"
Larry Bird 28" 9'1" 11'5"
Dr. J 41" 8'11" 12'4"
Spudd Webb 46" 7'4" 11'2"
Daryl Dawkins 34" 9'4" 12'2"
Dee Brown 44" - -
Harold Miner 44" - -
Julius Erving 43" - -
Larry Nance 40" - -
Ralph Sampson 36" - -
Karl Malone 28"
Magic Johnson 30" - -
Shawn Kemp 40"

Other High Vertical Leaps (Non-NBA)
Kadour Ziani (5'10)
Highest Vertical Leaper from Slamnation 60"
World Record Vertical Leap
Michael Wilson (Globetrotters) 51" - -
Reggie Thompson (Jumpsoles) 56" - -
Ronnie Fields (CBA) 48" - -
Melvin Levett 45" - -
l Pierce Henry Beckering 45"

NFL
Randy Moss 51" (53" running)
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Jevon Kearse 265 lbs 40" - -

NCAA
Brandon Dean 39" -

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Old 06-03-2009, 12:47 AM   #17
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Default Re: Rookie Shaq had a Better Max Vert than Dwayne Wade

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Shaq also already weighed 303 lbs. at the pre-draft camp. He was still an athletic freak in his prime at 340. Hell during, the last year of the 3peat he was still probably the most athletic center and he weighed over 380.

380? I don't know what you're smoking, but it's very dangerous stuff and must have damaged your brain cells. Shaq's closer to 280 than 380.
The NBA LIES about the heights and weights of most players.

This is 7'1" 380?




Shaq weighs only 12lbs less than World Class Powerlifter Mark Henry????
Henry is listed @ 6'1" 392lbs by WWE







How do you explain that this and this is 7'3 387? as a teenager





How do you explain that this is 7'3" 430lbs?


Shaq's a skinny girlyman. Stop pretending like he's the Incredible Hulk or something.
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:50 AM   #18
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You're a LIAR, Shaq's highest touch was a mere 12'4" even with his incredible 9'8" standing reach. Even a midget like 6'10" Olajuwon had a 12"6" highest touch. Ralph Sampson had a 12'11" highest touch from a standing jump.
I have NEVER EVER seen any evidence that Shaq was better than a B level jumper for a center and a C+ level jumper overall as a basketball player.

Shaq was as good a leaper as Odom in his prime BIG FRIGGIN' DEAL.
Brock Lesnar @ 301lbs had a much higher vertical leap and a FAR FAR better 40 time than Shaq ever did @ 301lbs.


Vince Carter 43" 8'11" 12'6"
Karl Malone 28" 9'2" 11'6"
Shaq 32" 9'8" 12'4"
Kobe Bryant 38" 8'10" 12'0"
Steve Francis 43" 8'5" 12'3"
Antonio McDyess 42" - -
Allen Iverson 41" - -
Shawn Kemp 40" (Seattle) - -
Rex Chapmann 39" - -
Desmond Mason 38" - -
Shaquille Oneal 32" - -
Lamar Odom 32" - -
Paul Pierce 38"
Shawn Marion 41"
Carmelo Anthony 41"
Ricky Davis 42"
Tracy McGrady 42"
Nate Robinson 43"
Jason Richardson 46"
James White 46"
Harold Miner 44"
Steve Francis 43"
LeBron James 44"
Fred Jones 42"

Legends:
Michael Jordan 48" (Chicago) 8'10" 12'5"
Dominique Wilkins 42" 9'0" 12'6"
Larry Bird 28" 9'1" 11'5"
Dr. J 41" 8'11" 12'4"
Spudd Webb 46" 7'4" 11'2"
Daryl Dawkins 34" 9'4" 12'2"
Dee Brown 44" - -
Harold Miner 44" - -
Julius Erving 43" - -
Larry Nance 40" - -
Ralph Sampson 36" - -
Karl Malone 28"
Magic Johnson 30" - -
Shawn Kemp 40"

Other High Vertical Leaps (Non-NBA)
Kadour Ziani (5'10)
Highest Vertical Leaper from Slamnation 60"
World Record Vertical Leap
Michael Wilson (Globetrotters) 51" - -
Reggie Thompson (Jumpsoles) 56" - -
Ronnie Fields (CBA) 48" - -
Melvin Levett 45" - -
l Pierce Henry Beckering 45"

NFL
Randy Moss 51" (53" running)
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Jevon Kearse 265 lbs 40" - -

NCAA
Brandon Dean 39" -

Those numbers are BS. You know how I know that? Because Jordan's vertical was never measured, he stated so himself. He said he didn't want to know what it was because he felt it would limit him. I seriously doubt it was 48" as well. And if you honestly think that Ralph Sampson had a vertical higher than Shaq's much less 4" higher then you're an even bigger idiot than I thought you were. And that's saying something.
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:51 AM   #19
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Default Re: Rookie Shaq had a Better Max Vert than Dwayne Wade

I never said that Shaq was 380+ now. I said he was during the 2002 playoffs. It was well known that Shaq was 375+ in the 2002-2003 and 2001-2002 seasons. The Lakers listed him at 330, but everyone knew he was heavier. Shaq has been in the 320-340 range since leaving Miami.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:00 AM   #20
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I was looking through that DraftExpress website. I was particularly interested in CP3 so I was looking at the 2005 Draft Class.Interesting thing is that Marcin Gortat has a 36inch vertical! Lol, that's VERY impressive especially for a big man. It's also impressive considering the stereotype that Euro's can't jump...
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:03 AM   #21
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I never said that Shaq was 380+ now. I said he was during the 2002 playoffs. It was well known that Shaq was 375+ in the 2002-2003 and 2001-2002 seasons. The Lakers listed him at 330, but everyone knew he was heavier. Shaq has been in the 320-340 range since leaving Miami.

Do you even know what 380 looks like? Shaq was NEVER 380. Never more than 325 or so. Shaq's always looks underweight and weak even at his heaviest. Dalip Singh @ 387 is a good example, he's twice as thick as Shaq ever was and he's all muscle while Shaq was mostly fat and Muscle is much denser. If Shaq weight 380, you'd expect Dalip Singh to weigh about 600lbs in those bodybuilding pics since muscle is much heavier than fat.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:18 AM   #22
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Do you even know what 380 looks like? Shaq was NEVER 380. Never more than 325 or so. Shaq's always looks underweight and weak even at his heaviest. Dalip Singh @ 387 is a good example, he's twice as thick as Shaq ever was and he's all muscle while Shaq was mostly fat and Muscle is much denser. If Shaq weight 380, you'd expect Dalip Singh to weigh about 600lbs in those bodybuilding pics since muscle is much heavier than fat.

Shaq as a rookie was weighed by the NBA at 303 pounds. This is what he looked like then.




Shaq was weighed before the 2002 playoffs at 382. This is what he looked like then.



Don't you think that Shaq easily could have been 80 pounds heavier in 2002 than he was in 1992?
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:49 PM   #23
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Old 06-03-2009, 11:27 PM   #24
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You're a LIAR, Shaq's highest touch was a mere 12'4" even with his incredible 9'8" standing reach. Even a midget like 6'10" Olajuwon had a 12"6" highest touch. Ralph Sampson had a 12'11" highest touch from a standing jump.
I have NEVER EVER seen any evidence that Shaq was better than a B level jumper for a center and a C+ level jumper overall as a basketball player.

Shaq was as good a leaper as Odom in his prime BIG FRIGGIN' DEAL.
Brock Lesnar @ 301lbs had a much higher vertical leap and a FAR FAR better 40 time than Shaq ever did @ 301lbs.


Vince Carter 43" 8'11" 12'6"
Karl Malone 28" 9'2" 11'6"
Shaq 32" 9'8" 12'4"
Kobe Bryant 38" 8'10" 12'0"
Steve Francis 43" 8'5" 12'3"
Antonio McDyess 42" - -
Allen Iverson 41" - -
Shawn Kemp 40" (Seattle) - -
Rex Chapmann 39" - -
Desmond Mason 38" - -
Shaquille Oneal 32" - -
Lamar Odom 32" - -
Paul Pierce 38"
Shawn Marion 41"
Carmelo Anthony 41"
Ricky Davis 42"
Tracy McGrady 42"
Nate Robinson 43"
Jason Richardson 46"
James White 46"
Harold Miner 44"
Steve Francis 43"
LeBron James 44"
Fred Jones 42"

Legends:
Michael Jordan 48" (Chicago) 8'10" 12'5"
Dominique Wilkins 42" 9'0" 12'6"
Larry Bird 28" 9'1" 11'5"
Dr. J 41" 8'11" 12'4"
Spudd Webb 46" 7'4" 11'2"
Daryl Dawkins 34" 9'4" 12'2"
Dee Brown 44" - -
Harold Miner 44" - -
Julius Erving 43" - -
Larry Nance 40" - -
Ralph Sampson 36" - -
Karl Malone 28"
Magic Johnson 30" - -
Shawn Kemp 40"

Other High Vertical Leaps (Non-NBA)
Kadour Ziani (5'10)
Highest Vertical Leaper from Slamnation 60"
World Record Vertical Leap
Michael Wilson (Globetrotters) 51" - -
Reggie Thompson (Jumpsoles) 56" - -
Ronnie Fields (CBA) 48" - -
Melvin Levett 45" - -
l Pierce Henry Beckering 45"

NFL
Randy Moss 51" (53" running)
- -
Jevon Kearse 265 lbs 40" - -

NCAA
Brandon Dean 39" -


Dude some of your Verticals are inflated. Randy Moss 51" yeah OK. Carmelo only has a 35 vert and Shaq had a 36 coming into the NBA. Jason Richardson is 39 those are just a couple and Jordan didn't have a 48" either.

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Old 06-04-2009, 02:07 AM   #25
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Shaq is an amaing athlete. Did you see that movie... ummm.... well, there was that movie with Penny, and there was this one game where he nearly just scored all of his points on dunks and alley-oops. He was jumping like a man possessed!
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shaq was always a mutant.
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