Kobe Bryant is now officially a top 10 player of all time! - Page 2 - Message Board Basketball Forum

Fatal9 · 06-15-2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by zabuza666

You'd put Kobe over Shaq?

If he wins two more? He is in the top 4. We are looking at 6 rings in the modern era (achieved only by the GOAT), statistics, awards etc. There won't really be a case against it, unless your criteria heavily factors peak play (in which case Shaq is top 4 for you).

JustinJDW · 06-15-2009, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lebron23

That's a top 10 player of all time. Stop hating on Kobe Bryant because the guy is the 3rd best player in the Post Jordan Era.

I do agree with him being #3 since Jordan, but I don't agree with him being Top 10.

Duncan21formvp · 06-15-2009, 12:26 AM

I can admit that Kobe has sealed up the 10th spot. The only other player that can argue for it is Moses Malone.

Xsatyr · 06-15-2009, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Fatal9

Top 3 aren't really arguable...it's Wilt/Kareem/Jordan.

Kobe is now "officially" top 10. Anyone denying it at this point is either a hater or doesn't have proper perspective in making these lists. He'll likely finish in the top 5.

I do not see him passing Shaq, Duncan, Kareem, Mj, Magic, Larry Bird, Wilt and Russell. You can argue with Hakeem if he wins another ring even though I still think he is better. But definitely not making top 5.

Fatal9 · 06-15-2009, 12:27 AM

at anyone arguing players like Dr. J, Oscar, Malone at this point. Havlichek is top 10, really?

Quit trolling.

NBASTATMAN · 06-15-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Heilige

In your opinion, what would Kobe have to accomplish to be higher than top 5?

I think the fact that he has been outplayed in the biggest of series hurts Kobe... Not once but twice... 04 AND 08...

mj, kareem , and russell have titles in college, pros and olympics..

Kareem 3 college and 6 pro
russell has 11 titles and I think college titles as well
MJ has 6 titles in his first 13 seasons and 1 college title

I didn't even get into the MVP'S or College player of the year awards..

rs98762001 · 06-15-2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Xsatyr

I do not see him passing Shaq, Duncan, Kareem, Mj, Magic, Larry Bird, Wilt and Russell.

I think he could certainly equal or pass Shaq and Duncan if he wins another couple of rings as the centerpiece of a team.

NBASTATMAN · 06-15-2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fatal9

at anyone arguing players like Dr. J, Oscar, Malone at this point. Havlichek is top 10, really?

Quit trolling.

Bran and Catch both laker fans have also written they believe Kobe is 10-15 after this title.. So FATAL stop your crap and admit to being a stan.. I mean fan.. lol

Fatal9 · 06-15-2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Xsatyr

I do not see him passing Shaq, Duncan, Kareem, MJ, Larry Bird, Wilt and Russell.

Kobe with another ring almost seals it in terms of passing Duncan. Another one will put him over Shaq, Bird and Russell. Nothing he can realistically do can put him over Kareem and Wilt (who are #2 and #3 respectively).

Xsatyr · 06-15-2009, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rs98762001

I think he could certainly equal or pass Shaq and Duncan if he wins another couple of rings as the centerpiece of a team.

I just don't think it will happen but crazier things have happened.

NBASTATMAN · 06-15-2009, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinJDW

I do agree with him being #3 since Jordan, but I don't agree with him being Top 10.

Yea shaq and duncan and then kobe...

Fatal9 · 06-15-2009, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NBASTATMAN

Bran and Catch both laker fans have also written they believe Kobe is 10-15 after this title.. So FATAL stop your crap and admit to being a stan.. I mean fan.. lol

Okay? Doesn't mean sh*t. There is NO argument now, Kobe is top 10. Eat it.

NBASTATMAN · 06-15-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Fatal9

If he wins two more? He is in the top 4. We are looking at 6 rings in the modern era (achieved only by the GOAT), statistics, awards etc. There won't really be a case against it, unless your criteria heavily factors peak play (in which case Shaq is top 4 for you).

If kobe's wins 2 more than maybe 5-7... Wilt has the titles and the ridiculous stats..

Kingwillball · 06-15-2009, 12:33 AM

Good list but since Lebron is already better than Kobe he is well on his way to being in the top 5 and maybe the best ever depending how many titles he wins. I am assuming this lists hinges on titles right and not just pure talent and greatness individually ?

Xsatyr · 06-15-2009, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Fatal9

Kobe with another ring almost seals it in terms of passing Duncan. Another one will put him over Shaq, Bird and Russell. Nothing he can realistically do can put him over Kareem and Wilt (who are #2 and #3 respectively).

I disagree with that, Shaq has 3 finals mvp. And one more will definitely not put him over Russell.