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Old 06-15-2009, 12:41 PM   #1
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Default Lakers Offseason Thread: Transactions thread

Okay, we are officially entering the offseason. The Los Angeles Lakers are the NBA World Champions. As we soak it up and celebrate I have no doubt in my mind that Mitch's joy and jubilation ended as he woke up this morining. Time for him to put in work. Here are a few notes as we move foward...

The Draft
The draft is now complete and the Lakers ended up with 4.5 million and saved a total of $6.2 million for selling their No. 29 pick (Toney Douglas) to New York and Miami their No. 46 pick (Patrick Beverley).

Free Agency
We all know this is going to be a nail biting summer. Ariza has reportedly signed a multi year deal with the Houston Rockets while we seemed to have snagged Ron Artest in return. S Dot Brown signed on the dotted line. Odom is the lone missing piece. What will it take to bring him back? Is Mitch done making moves?

Trades
Sasha, Walton, Powel, Farmar, and Morrison have to be at least considered available. well, pretty much anyone not named Kobe, Pau, Lamar, and Andrew are untouchable. Will we ride this team out? Will we upgrade at PG? Can we pull something off for a consistent shooter?

Coaching
Looks like Phil is going for number 11! Phil Jackson will return to coach the Los Angeles Lakers next season, getting a clean bill of health following a record championship season. With the addition of Ron Artest we'll need his brand of coaching more than ever.


Again, congrats Lakers, let's do it again!


Official Transactions completed:
-29th pick in the draft traded to New York for future second-round pick and cash.
-42nd pick in the draft traded to Miami for future second-round pick and cash.
-59th pick in the draft used to select Chinemelu Elonu, a center from Texas A&M.

Signed players (also includes draft picks)

- Ron Artest (3 years/ $18 m)
- Shannon Brown (2 years/ $4.2 m)



Trades

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Old 06-15-2009, 01:24 PM   #3
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Yahoo Sports mock draft has this guy as the Lakers first round selection. Hmm, a big point gaurd? That's right up Phil's alley. A guy compared to Ginobli is worth a look. Plus, dude is going to Greece for a year. We wouldn't have to worry about finding minutes for him.

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NICHOLAS CALATHES #33
Height: 6-foot-6
Weight: 194 pounds
Point Guard/Shooting Guard/Small Forward
Panathinaikos, Greece
University of Florida Gators

OVERVIEW
One of the top playmaking guards in the nation, Calathes ranked in the top 10 in nine of 13 possible categories during Southeastern Conference play as a sophomore. The All-SEC first-team selection was the only player in the nation to average better than 15.0 points, 5.0 rebounds and 6.0 assists per game in 2008-09.

Calathes has broken the UF records for assists and assists per game in each of his first two years, totaling 221 as a freshman (6.1 per game) and 231 (6.4 per game) as a sophomore. He ranks third in UF history in career assists after just two seasons. His 1,160 points scored were the most ever by a Gator in his freshman and sophomore seasons, topping the previous mark of 1,121 points by Ronnie Williams (1979-81).

The SEC Newcomer of the Year and the SEC co-Freshman of the Year in 2008, Calathes led UF in scoring and assists. His versatility proved invaluable, as he played point guard, shooting guard and small forward for the Gators, as his almost 6-foot-6 frame caused matchup problems.

Prior to his final season at Florida, Calathes earned MVP honors at the Chris Paul Camp in Winston-Salem in June, excelling among a group of 23 promising young college guards. He also played for the Greece Under-21 National Team last summer. He shocked most National Basketball Association executives and scouts when he recently signed a three-year contract to play for powerful Panathinaikos , the reigning Euroleague Basketball champion club based in Greece.

Panathinaikos (also known as PAO) has won 29 Greek national championships, five Euroleague titles and in 2007 became the first Greek club to play exhibition games against NBA teams. The list of past players to suit up for Panathinaikos includes Dominique Wilkins, Byron Scott, Antonio Davis, Tony Delk and John Salley.

Calathes, who averaged 17.2 points, 5.3 rebounds and led the Southeastern Conference with 6.2 assists per game as a sophomore last season, applied for early entry into the NBA draft, but held off from hiring a agent in the event he changed his mind and opted to return to school. Draft analysts projected him to go late in the first round.

Dallas, picking 22nd, was believed to be very interested after hosting the first-team All-SEC selection for a workout a week prior to him signing with the Greek team. NBA teams still could select Calathes in the June 25 draft and would retain his future rights. The contract with Panathinaikos is believed to have a buyout option.

Calathes, 20, is the latest to join the trend of American players taking their games overseas. Josh Childress, the former first-round pick of the Atlanta Hawks, last year signed a three-year, $32.5 million deal with Olympiakos, the team currently battling Panathinaikos in the Greek national championship series. Jennaro Pargo, a six-year NBA veteran, also signed with Olympiakos last season.

At Lake Howell High School, Calathes was a McDonald's, Parade and Michael Jordan All-American selection. The Gatorade Player of the Year and the two-time Mr. Basketball for the state of Florida became only the third player to ever win the Mr. Basketball award for the state of Florida twice. He finished his career as the leading scoring in Seminole County history (also ranks third in Central Florida annals).

At Lake Howell, Calathes teamed with Gator teammate Chandler Parsons to help lead the squad to a 31-3 record and a state title in 2006-07 and reach the Final Four in each of his four years in high school. He averaged 27.8 points, 6.5 rebounds and 4.6 assists per game during his senior year.

After graduation, Calathes played in the McDonald's All-American game in 2007, scoring 13 points, dishing out six assists and pulling down five rebounds. He also played in the Jordan All-American Capital Classic at Madison Square Garden.

Calathes enrolled at the University of Florida, where the All-Southeastern Conference second-team pick added SEC Newcomer of the Year and co-SEC Freshman of the Year (along with Patrick Patterson of Kentucky) honors in 2007-08. He led UF in scoring with 15.3 points per game, the highest total ever by a Billy Donovan freshman.

Calathes set school freshman records for points (552), assists (221), assists per game (6.1), free throws made (144) and free throws attempted (199). He led the league in assists and assists per game, breaking the 20-year-old Gators' record for assists and the 25-year-old UF record for assists per game.

Calathes played for the Greece Under-21 National Team in the summer of 2008, but upon his return to the states, he suffered a hip flexor. The injury limited his offseason training program after doctors shut him down for over five weeks.

In 2008-09, Calathes was named first-team All-SEC by a unanimous vote, as he broke his own school record of 221 assists, finishing the year with 231 and has the two highest totals in UF history. The only player in the country to average more than 15.0 points, 5.0 rebounds, and 6.0 assists per game in 2008-09, he led the Gators in scoring (17.2 per game), assists (6.4 per game), and steals (68).

CAREER NOTES
Started 71 of 72 games at Florida, seeing action at small forward, shooting guard and point guard...His 1,170 points scored are the most by a Florida player in their freshman and sophomore seasons combined, topping the previous record of 1,121 points by Ronnie Williams (1979-81)...Registered 126 steals, ranking second in school history with an average of 1.8 steals per game, topped by Richard Glasper (1.83 steals per game, 1976-78)...His 68 steals in 2008-09 rank third and his 58 in 2007-08 rank ninth on the Gators' season-record chart...Ranks third in school history with 452 assists, topped by Ronnie Montgomery (503, 1985-88) and Eddie Shannon (493, 1996-99)...His 231 assists in 2008-09 set the school season-record and rank sixth on the Atlantic Coast Conference's annual record list...His 221 assists in 2007-08 rank second on that school season-record chart...His average of 6.28 assists per game also placed sixth on the ACC career-record list and set the Florida all-time mark, surpassing Richard Glasper (4.26 assists per game, 1977-78)...Became the fifth player in school history to score over 600 points (618 in 2008-09) in a season, joining Andy Owens (676, 1969-70), Neal Walk (663 in 1967-68 and 649 in 1968-69) and Vernon Maxwell (648, 1985-86)...Scored 20 or more points in 13 contests during 2008-09, the most by a Gator player since Anthony Roberson had 15 20-point games in 2003-04.

INJURY REPORT
2008: Was sidelined for five weeks during the summer with a strained hip flexor.

OTHER TOURNAMENTS/TEAMS
SUMMER LEAGUE: After graduating from high school, Calathes played in the McDonald's All-American game in 2007, scoring 13 points, dishing out six assists and pulling down five rebounds...Also played in the Jordan All-American Capital Classic at Madison Square Garden...In 2008, he competed on the Greece U-21National Team.

SCOUTING REPORT
Positives: Lacks great athleticism and court speed (struggles to cover the quickest guards), but compensates with very high basketball IQ...Might be taller than most point guards, but has a tight handle and is highly effective with his crisp passing skills...Best with the ball in his hands creating for others and his vision and no hesitation sees him quickly kick the ball out to an open target (holds the top two spots on the school's season assists record book)...Lacks explosive quickness, but knows how to vary speed, combining that with a nice array of fakes and a deceptive hesitation move to get the defender off-balance as he manages to slip past and into the lane...His versatility is a major plus -- can play both backcourt positions, in addition to picking up minutes each game at the "three" spot...Plays with a low center of gravity, keeping his dribble tight and close...Is an efficient ball-handler who avoids turnover issues when he keeps the ball on the floor for long stretches...Gets bounced around some by bigger forwards, but works hard to finish around the basket...Not the type that can mirror the quicker point guard's moves on perimeter defense, but uses his body well to box out and set up screens, as he is also capable of spinning out in help defense...Smart player who does a nice job controlling the pace of the game, as his ball-handling lets him push the ball up court on the fast break and his intelligence lets him know when to slow the action and play the half court...While he is a decent scorer from the perimeter, he realizes he gets most of his success as a facilitator...Can make the tough passes with either hand and doesn't force the issue when facing double teams...Not the type who needs to shoot to make his presence felt...Can slip through traffic and finish around the basket when he takes the best path to the rim rather than trying to take awkward shots for the sake of getting the ball up...Delivers crisp passes on dish-and-drive plays and is always looking to keep teammates involved...Has a smooth and effortless shooting stroke, with enough range to be consistent from NBA 3-point range...Uses his frame to get into the paint, drawing contact to get to the foul line...Creates scoring mismatches vs. most point guards with his tall frame and uses his size effectively to get passes up and over the defender to an open teammate.

Negatives: Much more comfortable playing the point, but does not have the timed speed or lateral movement skills to prevent slashing point guards from getting the angle to the bucket and is usually a step behind...Needs to add more bulk and strength to hold up at the wing and does not have the power to handle NBA forwards one-on-one...Moves well on the court, but he does not have the timed speed or explosive first step to simply race by a defender...Efficient percentage shooter when uncontested, but 20 percent of his contested shots resulted in turnovers (averaged 3.31 turnovers per game in 2008-09, but still had close to a 2:1 assist/turnover ratio)...Does a good job of drawing contact on the way to the basket, but needs to refine his shooting technique at the charity stripe...His lack of strength is evident when he struggles to split a double team...Does not have the lateral quickness to maintain position in front of perimeter shooters and despite having a great height advantage on most point guards, he has marginal statistics as a shot blocker (nine in 72 games encompassing 2,374 minutes).

Compares To: MANU GINOBILI, San Antonio -- Calathes bolted for Greece and with him his hopes of being selected in the first round of the NBA draft. Still, he is a very unselfish player and excellent ball handler who will draw interest from an established team in the second round, as that organization can afford to be patient while he either plays out his contract or buys it out after one year of international competition.
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I think a young point guard who can be developed is the right pick...I don't think frontcourt help is the biggest concern right now to be honest.
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I want Ariza and odom back! if i had to pick id go with Ariza cuz how much better he got from last season is insane and if he could continue to improve that way, my lord just imagine!
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1. If Kobe is all about winning he'll take a paycut. It doesnt have to be a big one, even just a little one will help. He's due 23 and 25 mil over the next two years. I think he will do a new contract similar to what Shaq did. 5/6 years at 20 mil flat each year.

2. Ariza will definatly be resigned. There just arent going to be many teams under the cap enough to offer him more than the midlevel. And of those teams that do, can you see a team paying Ariza star money and thinking he is the guy to carry you to the next level? I expect that he'll get several midlevel offers and that the Lakers will match anyone he gets.

Although if they somehow did lose Ariza, I'd like to see the team go after Grant Hill.

3. LO. This one is the toughest one. If some other team offers him a crazy contract it might be tough for the Lakers to match. Length of contract will be the key point. Will the Lakers match a 5 year 60 mil deal? Will Odom leave that kind of deal on the table and walk away from it? The good news is that all of the real condenders are capped out and cant offer him that deal. He'd have to go to a team like Memphis or Atlanta to get that kind of deal.

4. Brown. This one is a very interesting one. He might have earned himself a bit of a raise with his play in the playoffs, but I still dont see any other team offering him more than 2.5 mil per and I dont think they would give him more than a 2 year deal. The biggerst question here is do the Lakers think he can become a key rotation guy next season and do they think they he can take over Farmars spot as Farmars contract is up next season.

5. Powell. Not neccissary, a nice luxury piece, but their will be plenty of guys that can fill his role near min salary.

6. Mbenga. See #5

7. Sun Yue. We havent had a Sun Yue sighting in a long time, I have no idea if the Lakers will pick up his option and it wont matter.

8. Any other moves are highly unlikely. Once they sign one of their free agents that money counts against their midlevel exception. So unless they sign someone elses free agent first, they cant use it. They will have only the bi-annual exception that pays somewhere around 2.5 mil. Sol dont expect that the Lakers will pick up an impact free agent....unless that free agent is willing to play for bi-annual exception.

9. Trades. Its doubtful the Lakers can make a trade to bring back an impact player, they just dont have any trade chips right now. Morrisons expiring contract is all they have. Their only hope is that they find another diamond in the rough like Ariza and you dont get lucky like that very often.
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Honestly, this topic is too broad to delete all other threads relating to off season moves.

This would stifle healthy conversation instead of promoting it, because there is room for multiple players/topics to be going on at the same time - and that can get muddled/lost within a single thread.

Just my two cents.
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I would love to bring Rafer Alston to L.A. and the Magic are likely going to look to move him for a less expensive backup...and to free up money to try to bring Turkeyglu back...

what do you guys think?

Farmar and Sasha or Walton?
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I would love to bring Rafer Alston to L.A. and the Magic are likely going to look to move him for a less expensive backup...and to free up money to try to bring Turkeyglu back...

what do you guys think?

Farmar and Sasha or Walton?

People I would give up to get Rafer Alston..... lets get this list started, lol.

Sasha Vujabrick.
Luke Walton.
Adam Morrison.


Have to look at the contracts again to see who we are committed to after this year. I don't think we have any ties to Powell or Mbenga, correct?
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If we are talking draft moves....

Jodie Meeks is another guard that is projected to be a late first / early second round pick. That might be another guy the Lakers should keep an eye on.

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I think Nick Calathes would be an awesome pickup...he's a little raw on the scoring aspect of his game, but playing in Greece for a year or two will mold him into a Jason Kidd type player.

Living in Gainesville, FL. the past 4 years I've had the chance to watch his game very closely and he's a very good floor general. Something that the Lakers could use in the future.
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42nd pick we should go for Patty Mills or Jodie Meeks.

If we draft a PG it means we can let Shannon Brown go.

How about Tyler Hansbrough? A really hard worker, a hustle guy you want off the bench? Or is that too much like Powell...we'll see..
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42nd pick we should go for Patty Mills or Jodie Meeks.

If we draft a PG it means we can let Shannon Brown go.

How about Tyler Hansbrough? A really hard worker, a hustle guy you want off the bench? Or is that too much like Powell...we'll see..

We'd have to draft up for him. That guy is too good to slip that low. People keep saying he's overrated. That is bogus. I'd love to have him in a Laker jersey. One thing though is that I don't see us using all 3 picks. We dont really have a need for 3 rooks who wont see the floor. I believe something big will happen with those picks and a player or two. I'm starting to have faith in Mitch. If he can work some magic this summer he may take a step towards being ranked up there with Jerry in the office. Still a ways to go though.
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Morrison Walton Farmar are getting like 5 mil each throw in Fisher and we equal Shaq 20 mil!! I hate that the Cav's are about to trade nothing and get Shaq for a year!!! That makes the Cav's as good as the Laker's maybe even better!!! Considering they still could pick up another good-player through trade or Mid-level!!!
That is really a horrible plan, thank goodness you're not running the team. There are so many things wrong with that idea I'll only addess one part. The part about Shaq joining the team with his gigantor crap salary and the fact you just traded away a handfull of players that need to be replaced. Their trade value could be put to much better use.

Shaq has become a joke on and off the floor, that is the last thing the Lakers need and the last thing Kobe wants here, we have Bynum and Gasol, keep Mbenga or find a journeyman center and that's plenty of depth at that spot.

Shaq won't help the Cavs, It will just clog up the lanes for Lebron, clog up cap space and weaken their defense.
The Cavs won so many games because they defend the pick and roll well. Shaq cannot and will not defend the pick and roll, and he has become mortal on offense, his foot work is gone and he relys on his bulk not his skills. The only reason Shaq was moderatly productive last season was because they played him limited minutes and he has Nash spoon feeding him the ball.

I"d love nothing more than to see Shaq on the Cavs. It will signal the Cavs are throwing in the towell on trying to keep James happy and going for a one shot title run ala Miami Heat. (37 year old centers are not the way to show your superstar you're trying to build for the future, they Bring in Shaq, Lebron is out of there in 2010)

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That is really a horrible plan, thank goodness you're not running the team. There are so many things wrong with that idea I'll only addess one part. The part about Shaq joining the team with his gigantor crap salary and the fact you just traded away a handfull of players that need to be replaced. Their trade value could be put to much better use.

Shaq has become a joke on and off the floor, that is the last thing the Lakers need and the last thing Kobe wants here, we have Bynum and Gasol, keep Mbenga or find a journeyman center and that's plenty of depth at that spot.

Shaq won't help the Cavs, It will just clog up the lanes for Lebron, clog up cap space and weaken their defense.
The Cavs won so many games because they defend the pick and roll well. Shaq cannot and will not defend the pick and roll, and he has become mortal on offense, his foot work is gone and he relys on his bulk not his skills. The only reason Shaq was moderatly productive last season was because they played him limited minutes and he has Nash spoon feeding him the ball.

I"d love nothing more than to see Shaq on the Cavs. It will signal the Cavs are throwing in the towell on trying to keep James happy and going for a one shot title run ala Miami Heat. (37 year old centers are not the way to show your superstar you're trying to build for the future, they Bring in Shaq, Lebron is out of there in 2010)

Agreed, no way do we trade for Shaq.
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