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Old 06-24-2009, 12:32 PM   #166
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The thing is, Al Jefferson seems like a vanilla type of player. Kind of like an Elton Brand. He'll get his double doubles but won't ever have or be what it takes to lead a team to a Championship. Kevin Love might end up being better than Al Jefferson. Time will tell.

The point being, the Wolves need a leader who has that extra something that they need to lead them a ring. That person is Ricky Rubio. They should trade their 6th, 18th, and 28th First Round Draft picks for #2 and then take Rubio.



maybe you just havent watched al jefferson, but he probably has the best touch in the paint of any big man in the league right now, the guy is a bucket-getting/rebounding monster - not to mention he has a reasonable contract, by all accounts is a good teammate and a likable guy and has shown marked development each season, i like love but hes not gonna be the offensive post threat that al is ever

kg/bosh/gasol etc. couldnt do **** by themselves either, its not a damnation of them, just proof that big guys always need some guard help to win anything significant
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:47 PM   #167
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maybe you just havent watched al jefferson, but he probably has the best touch in the paint of any big man in the league right now, the guy is a bucket-getting/rebounding monster - not to mention he has a reasonable contract, by all accounts is a good teammate and a likable guy and has shown marked development each season, i like love but hes not gonna be the offensive post threat that al is ever

kg/bosh/gasol etc. couldnt do **** by themselves either, its not a damnation of them, just proof that big guys always need some guard help to win anything significant
just to add to what you said NO ONE can win by themselves, not even kobe or MJ or lebron or shaq or anyone.
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:49 PM   #168
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Minny should do the following:

Trade: 5 or 6 and 18 for 2

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2- Rubio
5/6- Curry


that would be interesting but a great passing pg and a lights out shooter..
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:54 PM   #169
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Minny should do the following:

Trade: 5 or 6 and 18 for 2

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2- Rubio
5/6- Curry


that would be interesting but a great passing pg and a lights out shooter..
i would be fine with it. Evans has been rumored though to be very high on Minnesotas list so if we do get rubio and if evans is still available at 5 or 6 (dont know which one we would give up to move up) we will draft Evans. If we dont end up moving up i would love to get johnny flynn + curry/evans/derozan
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:16 PM   #170
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that's not going to happen. He's their future and they're trying to build around Kevin Love and him.
To tell you the truth, Al is the only player on the wolves that's spot on the team is a garuntee. I thought for sure Foye wouldn't be traded, but he obviously just did. In a star tribune article, Kahn said that on a championship team, Al would be the second best player on the team, and Love would be 4th or 5th.

I wouldn't be all that surprised to see love moved on draft day. I think Kahn realizes that Al needs to play forward.

But do you really think Rubio and Evans would work on the same team, if that is what we end up drafting? They both dominate the ball, I almost want to say Rubio/Curry or Rubio/Hill would be a better combination. Although I'm not sold on Rubio whatsoever....
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To tell you the truth, Al is the only player on the wolves that's spot on the team is a garuntee. I thought for sure Foye wouldn't be traded, but he obviously just did. In a star tribune article, Kahn said that on a championship team, Al would be the second best player on the team, and Love would be 4th or 5th.

I wouldn't be all that surprised to see love moved on draft day. I think Kahn realizes that Al needs to play forward.

But do you really think Rubio and Evans would work on the same team, if that is what we end up drafting? They both dominate the ball, I almost want to say Rubio/Curry or Rubio/Hill would be a better combination. Although I'm not sold on Rubio whatsoever....
haha i just thought what if memphis where to except Love + 18th + 28th pick for the 2nd over all . im not sure i would even do it and it is unrealistic and wont happen but damn we would have the 2nd + 5th + 6th
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haha i just thought what if memphis where to except Love + 18th + 28th pick for the 2nd over all . im not sure i would even do it and it is unrealistic and wont happen but damn we would have the 2nd + 5th + 6th
That would be unreal, we'd have 2 of the top 5 picks. I don't think memphis would do that just for the sake of us having all those picks. I don't even think I would want those, to many chances that our top picks will be busts. Not to mention some pretty solid players could slip down to 18.

But I think I would be down with Love and the 5th for Memphis 2nd and filler. I like Love, but there isn't really a place for him on the team, unless its off the bench, and unless Al continues to player center, which I really wish he wouldn't.
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Ah mister Pecherov. I thought he'd retire after this happened last year

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbxzfVl_7c4&fmt=18

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Old 06-24-2009, 02:47 PM   #174
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Love is worth more than that, especially since Memphis needs a PF. Love + 18th for 2nd is a fair trade if you ask me. I mean think about it, Love has already shown himself to be a solid player, and he fills a need for the Grizzlies, if you're them why not go for that instead of taking a chance on Jordan Hill ?

Wolves would do it because it allows them to move Al to his natural position as PF, and they then draft Rubio 2nd, Thabeet 5th, Evans 6th and Budinger/Casspi 28th.

Not going to happen, but would be kinda funny and does make sense for both teams.
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:54 PM   #175
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i wonder who they are going to pick at the 5 spot ? my guess is jordan hill still i cant think of any one else i dont think rubio will fall to the 5 spot
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:56 PM   #176
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i wonder who they are going to pick at the 5 spot ? my guess is jordan hill still i cant think of any one else i dont think rubio will fall to the 5 spot
i think they'll eventually trade up to No.2 and draft Thabeet. Kahn already said he wants to make a big splash this year and that move fits the criteria.
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i wonder who they are going to pick at the 5 spot ? my guess is jordan hill still i cant think of any one else i dont think rubio will fall to the 5 spot
0% chance we take hill if we still have Love on the roster
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The more I think about it the more I think the Wolves should trade Love + 18th for 2nd. Makes perfect sense for both teams.

I like Kevin Love, but ultimately I don't think a frontcourt of Love + Jefferson works, they just don't have the size and defense you need, and its forcing Jefferson to play out of position.

If that trade goes through the Wolves could get Thabeet to play center alongside Jefferson at PF, a combo that perfectly compliments each other. And Memphis gets a proven scorer and rebounder to fit their biggest need at PF, rather than having to gamble on Hill or pick Rubio/Thabeet who don't want to be there.
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The more I think about it the more I think the Wolves should trade Love + 18th for 2nd. Makes perfect sense for both teams.

I like Kevin Love, but ultimately I don't think a frontcourt of Love + Jefferson works, they just don't have the size and defense you need, and its forcing Jefferson to play out of position.

If that trade goes through the Wolves could get Thabeet to play center alongside Jefferson at PF, a combo that perfectly compliments each other. And Memphis gets a proven scorer and rebounder to fit their biggest need at PF, rather than having to gamble on Hill or pick Rubio/Thabeet who don't want to be there.
It cant go down because The Grizzlies drafted Love, we cant reacquire Love until after the Draft.

And Kevin Love + 18 is not worth the 2nd overall pick, Love is not a proven scorer at all but he is a solid rebounder, and his inconsistent end to the season raised eyebrows.

We'd rather sign Milsap, Big Baby, Bass or Lee at PF if we make it a priority, not trading for Love.
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It cant go down because The Grizzlies drafted Love, we cant reacquire Love until after the Draft.

And Kevin Love + 18 is not worth the 2nd overall pick, Love is not a proven scorer at all but he is a solid rebounder, and his inconsistent end to the season raised eyebrows.

Hmm, didn't know there was a rule against that. Well 5th + 18th for 2nd it is then.
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