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Old 06-14-2006, 02:55 PM   #46
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Took me a minute, but I found the other thread....
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Boozer - $12 mil.
Lafrentz - $10 mil.
Taylor - $9 mil.
Croshere - $9 mil.
Miller - $9 mil.
Ilgauskas - $9 mil.
Cato - $9 mil.
Okur - $8 mil.
Dalembert - $8 mil.
Dampier - $8 mil.
Camby - $8 mil.
Wright - $8 mil.
Foyle - $7 mil.
Nesterovic - $7 mil.
This is what big men get paid. In basketball, just like in the rest of the world, jobs pay according to the rarity of skills required for them. You might think that small forwards like Charlie are more important, and I might think that doctors and lawyers are more important, but the fact remains that the skills and size required to be an NBA bigman are more rare than those required to be a doctor, lawyer, or Charlie Villanueva.

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if you look around the league at teams who paid primo $$$ for centers that aren't worth it, you'll find that their team isn't doing well either.
Please.

Boozer - 41 wins
Lafrentz - 33 wins
Taylor - 23 wins
Croshere - 41 wins
Miller - 44 wins
Ilgauskas - 50 wins
Cato - 36 wins
Okur - 41 wins
Dalembert - 38 wins
Dampier - 60 wins
Camby - 44 wins
Wright - 49 wins
Foyle - 34 wins
Nesterovic - 63 wins

Control group (Toronto) - 27 wins


Average centers are worth $8 million in the NBA, and Magloire is above average. He will get paid 9 or 10, as he should. How can you possibly think it's "over" paid when it's simply the going rate? Playoff teams have centers and they pay them! Please argue against that!
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Magloire is average
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Old 06-14-2006, 03:36 PM   #48
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damn, Auggie is supposed to be a natural 6-10.
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Old 06-14-2006, 04:21 PM   #49
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jerome james
troy murphy
kmart
theo ratliff
zbo


to go with your list of

dalambert
boozer
lafrentz
taylor
croshere
cato
wright
foyle
nesterovic

all overpaid bigmen. teams saw that they were big, and signed them to large $$$. now? most of the teams that own these players are cap fucckked and want them shipped out asap. the ones in bold were on teams that made the playoffs, but did so with little contribution from that player. other players on your list:

okur
camby
miller
Z
dampier

are worth what they're getting paid. magloire isn't in that category.
i'd rather draft the player you have your latest crush on (aldridge) than pay someone like magloire... and im not that high on lamarcus either.

i could see a team that has a very high payroll make a move like this and add a player like magloire to help them get over the hump. but a player and a contract like that is terrible for a club that is trying to rebuild. there are more cost friendly ways of adding bigmen, the draft being the best route. so long as you do your scouting, you won't have to worry about him being worth "bigman money" or not.
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Dampier is in a class higher than Magloire???

Dampier = 31 years old, Magloire = 28
Dampier = 5.7 ppg, Magloire = 9.2
Dampier = 7.8 rpg, Magloire = 9.5
Dampier = 1.3 bpg, Magloire = 1

That .3 blocks really means a lot, huh?
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Old 06-14-2006, 04:38 PM   #51
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The problem Doubletech, is that you can't win games with a roster full of players on their rookie contracts. Maybe that's not Toronto's goal anyway - I get the sense that they want to play for Greg Oden this year.

The sense I get from many on the board is that bigmen not on their rookie contracts are overpaid. If you want to play in the playoffs, you need veteren big men. Everybody knows this. But for some reason, people think that every big man outside of Duncan and KG is overpaid. In spite of the fact that their teams are in the playoffs, and the teams like Toronto and Atlanta without these guys are at the lake.

Oh well.
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dampier earned his contract these playoffs... and dallas has a payroll that can take a hit like dampier's contract without sweating it too much.


you pick ONE guy out of that entire list? and its the guy playing a large role on the team leading the NBA finals...

you wanna overpay for mediocre bigmen? go ahead.

toronto is "by the lake" because we have no depth at ANY position other than PF... can't solely place that on our lack of a mediocre center. the only reason we got that many wins was bosh's consistent play.
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I picked one guy out of your list of five, because he's the only guy clearly not as good as Magloire. Still, you have a pretty messed up definition of "mediocre" when it includes somebody who is top-10 at his position.
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Just as I suspected, Adam Morrison is, in fact, 6'8.

Where is Joe Wait at?

I'm sure he'll say, "Those measurements aren't right" or "They're lying to make him look better".

Fact is, he said Adam Morrison was no taller than 6'5.

I said he was 6'6 1/2 with out shoes and I was right, I would make a rap song about it, but ISH might ban me.
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Raptors fans are going nuts with Villy's value. He scored 13 points on one of the worst teams in the league while playing no defense, and all the sudden he can only be traded for all stars? Sorry Kwaj.

How many allstars did the bucks have this year?
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http://www.insidehoops.com/draft-pro...urements.shtml

Wingspans are up. Sene is a freak!
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Does anyone have the standing reaches of these players??????
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go to draftexpress.com they anounced the reaches
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