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Old 08-08-2009, 06:39 PM   #31
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Old 08-08-2009, 06:51 PM   #32
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Old 08-08-2009, 07:07 PM   #33
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Sidekick.

Shaq was actully the side-kick most the time ....I have no idea why he was always glorified by the fans and media for being Kobe's sidekick



I mean ... he's just a fat sidekick.... during the most crucial moments most of the times it was Kobe that did the deed. Shaq could only stand there and watch with drool dripping from his mouth
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Shaq was actully the side-kick most the time ....I have no idea why he was always glorified by the fans and media for being Kobe's sidekick



I mean ... he's just a fat sidekick.... during the most crucial moments most of the times it was Kobe that did the deed. Shaq could only stand there and watch with drool dripping from his mouth


The media is what gave Kobe his rep. He started in an allstar game when he didn't even start on his own team.


that's the common line. Yet if the competition was so bad in the Finals why has Kobe performed so badly?

WCF 2000 he shot .402 vs Blazers

WCF 2001 he tore up Danny Ferry as Anderson hurt his shoulder. To be honest he always tore up SAS. I could never understand why Pop was so reluctant to double Kobe.

WCF 2002 SAS -Game 4, down by two Kobe drives into traffic, forces the shot and misses, luckily it gets tipped to Horry for the win or the Lakers are down 3 games to 1.

Game 5, Shaq fouls out in the fourth, now it's Kobe time, what does he do? Shoots 1 for his final eight shots and they lose by 1? No one talks about this debacle

Game 6 was a mess thanks to officiating.

Game 7 of what was really the NBA finals (Since Nj had no chance) and Kobe doesn't have a FG in the fourth OR OT. Of course he was the "decoy" hmmm, top closer on the team as the decoy for 2 periods in a game 7. Somehow I don't think Phil is that dumb.

and he shot .353 vs the Blazers in a 3 game sweep that year, do you think he was carrying them that series?

He's had some good series. But really Shaq was the steady force that allowed them to be in games for Kobe to get a chance at heroics.
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Do you know how much harder it is to be a dominant perimeter player than to be a center? It takes skills, hard work, and courage. Kobe has all three. Without him Shaq wouldn't even get his first ring.

In the first championship Kobe won a game for the Lakers when Shaq fouled out. He carried that team. Then Kobe was injured for game 3 the Lakers lost as Reggie Miller went off for 33 points and Shaq has his lowest scoring output of the Finals.

Without a dominant SG like Kobe and Wade by his side Shaq is destined to be a nobody.


Did shaq bring the ball up the court and score? No! ... he just sat in the paint like a big fat person and Kobe,Wade and Penny passed him the ball and did all the work

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Old 08-08-2009, 07:18 PM   #36
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Do you know how much harder it is to be a dominant perimeter player than to be a center? It takes skills, hard work, and courage. Kobe has all three. Without him Shaq wouldn't even get his first ring.

In the first championship Kobe won a game for the Lakers when Shaq fouled out. He carried that team. Then Kobe was injured for game 3 the Lakers lost as Reggie Miller went off for 33 points and Shaq has his lowest scoring output of the Finals.

Without a dominant SG like Kobe and Wade by his side Shaq is destined to be a nobody.


Did shaq bring the ball up the court and score? No! ... he just sat in the paint like a big fat person and Kobe,Wade and Penny passed him the ball and did all the work

Kobe averaged 15 ppg on 37% and got outplayed by Reggie Miller and Jalen Rose.

Jason Richardson would do what Kobe did that year.


Kobe only became a star because of Shaq, without Shaq, Kobe never becomes a starter and never becomes a superstar.
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Kobe averaged 15 ppg on 37% and got outplayed by Reggie Miller and Jalen Rose.

Jason Richardson would do what Kobe did that year.


Kobe only became a star because of Shaq, without Shaq, Kobe never becomes a starter and never becomes a superstar.


Without Kobe Shaq (7'1 325 pounds) averaged 13.7 ppg and got outplayed by Dwyane Wade,Dirk Nowitzki,Jason Terry,Josh Howard and Antoine Walker.


Ben Wallace would do what Shaq did that year.


Shaq only became a star because of Penny and Kobe, without Penny,Kobe and D-Wade Shaq never even makes the playoffs (he couldn't even make the playoffs Phoenix with a 2x MVP) and never becomes a superstar.
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Without Kobe Shaq (7'1 325 pounds) averaged 13.7 ppg and got outplayed by Dwyane Wade,Dirk Nowitzki,Jason Terry,Josh Howard and Antoine Walker.


Ben Wallace would do what Shaq did that year.


Shaq only became a star because of Penny and Kobe, without Penny,Kobe and D-Wade Shaq never even makes the playoffs (he couldn't even make the playoffs Phoenix with a 2x MVP) and never becomes a superstar.

Without Kobe, Shaq was leading the league in PER and getting the team to the finals. In fact Shaq was an allstar before anyone of his teammates. Kobe was a nobody until he played with Shaq. Kobe would never have been more than a 6th man without Shaq as is the case when he first came in the league.
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Without Kobe Shaq (7'1 325 pounds) averaged 13.7 ppg and got outplayed by Dwyane Wade,Dirk Nowitzki,Jason Terry,Josh Howard and Antoine Walker.


Ben Wallace would do what Shaq did that year.


Shaq only became a star because of Penny and Kobe, without Penny,Kobe and D-Wade Shaq never even makes the playoffs (he couldn't even make the playoffs Phoenix with a 2x MVP) and never becomes a superstar.
You don't even believe what you're saying.
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at this loser
does anyone remember that thread about tmac being better than kobe in the playoffs? this seems eerily the same
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Old 08-08-2009, 08:25 PM   #41
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This dude has amnesia. He's been exposed and he's still going.
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Old 08-08-2009, 08:39 PM   #42
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And the list grows.

Number of threads TmacsRockets has made to discredit kobe: 29

Top 10 Lakers Players in order Ever.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=115801

How to determine if a player was best in the league.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=113393

Pau Gasol is the key to the success of the Lakers.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=113348

KG or Kobe--More capable of leading a team to a Title as the Best Player on the Team
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88072

Kobe calls himself a sidekick on the Lakers title teams http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89722

What team if healthy will be better next year. Rockets or Lakers?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90691

Lebron, Gasol and Odom
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92231

Rockets, Lakers, Hornets or Celtics, who is the best team for next season?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92251

Duncan, Manu and Parker and the Kobe, Pau, Odom and the MJ, Pippen, Rodman comparison
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92342

Put T-mac, Wade or Lebron on the Lakers this year instead of Kobe, how far do they go
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92745

Why do people say don't compare Dwyane Wade to Kobe as if Kobe is much superior?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92862

Houston Rockets or LA Lakers, If completely healthy next year, who is better
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93234

How many titles will the Trio of Kobe, Gasol and Bynum win?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94919

T-mac or AI and Prime Shaq on the Lakers from 1999-2004, how many titles?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95354

LA Lakers 2007-08 NBA Champions DVD?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95437

Houston vs Boston vs Lakers, who is the best now?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97710

Is Kobe's window closing to win a title as the best player on the team?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=105303

Why does Lamar Odom always get the blame for the Lakers Failures?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=105805

2006 Heat vs 2008 Lakers, who wins in 7?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=106387

The guy most comparable to Kobe is Julius Erving
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=107082

Odom vs Marion, who is better
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=107197

If T-mac won back to back titles and got 2 finals mvp's, would he be better than Kobe
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=107317

Is Pau Gasol a star in this league?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=107521

Had Phil Jackson never went to coach in LA starting in 2000, would the Lakers have ..
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=108274

2001 Lakers vs 1995 Rockets, who wins in 7
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=108296

Last 4 Years: Kobe or Dirk
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=110690

Better Playoff Performer: Wade, Kobe, T-mac, Carter, Pierce, Lebron or Iverson
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=110689

This year only, Garnett vs Gasol
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=111070

Had Kobe played with Garnett for his career, how many titles would they have?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=111343
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Wow. You must really dislike Bryant.
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