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Old 10-19-2006, 01:07 PM   #31
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Pierce also is getting older. I know people like Iverson prove critics wrong by posting better stats every season, but you have to acknowledge that having better fantasy seasons after 30 is hard. Also, there are always rumours of him being traded, which is a risky factor.

However, I believe that Chris Paul is tied for the second best fantasy pg with nash.
And Paul Pierce just turned 29, and he is not going to hit 30 til next season...

So what were you saying?

And this was one of Pierce's best seasons...

So your arguement was just trash...


Like I said, numbers wise...Pierce is easily top 10

27ppg
7rpg
5apg
1.5 3pg
1.5 spg
0.5bpg
77%
47%
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:12 PM   #32
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There are some errors in that...

1st of all, Peja improves Paul's asissts WAY more than what impact Nazr can have...

TOs they are nearly even, FT% they are close, points too Paul should be higher,

I am going by probablilty, he has more % of doing much better than doing worse...

So based on that, his points, rebounds, and assists + FG% should go up...
I wasn't just talking about Nazr. McDyess, Murray and the ability for every position on the floor to score won't exactly hurt Billups' assist totals either.
Yes TOs are close, but you'll notice that Billups got 1.5 more assists with .3 less turnovers. If you want assist-to-turnover ratios then Billups's is 4.09 and Paul's is 2.96
5% isn't close in free throw percentages. You might be down playing it because they are both above 80%. It would mean a lot more to you if you were drafting a forward where shooting 65% or 70% is a big differnece. That same reasoning applies here too.
I will agree that he has a better chance of improving all-around (except rebounding with Peja, Chandler and West) but so does Billups with the offensive weaponry acquired in the offseason and the departure of the Ben "Baby Mits" Wallace.

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Old 10-19-2006, 01:20 PM   #33
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trade good thread but u dont have marion? that amazes me.
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Old 10-19-2006, 02:55 PM   #34
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KG
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Duncan(assuming he has center eligibility drop him if he doesnt)
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Old 10-19-2006, 05:17 PM   #35
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marion
lebron
garnett
kobe
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Old 10-19-2006, 05:22 PM   #36
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I wasn't just talking about Nazr. McDyess, Murray and the ability for every position on the floor to score won't exactly hurt Billups' assist totals either.
Yes TOs are close, but you'll notice that Billups got 1.5 more assists with .3 less turnovers. If you want assist-to-turnover ratios then Billups's is 4.09 and Paul's is 2.96
5% isn't close in free throw percentages. You might be down playing it because they are both above 80%. It would mean a lot more to you if you were drafting a forward where shooting 65% or 70% is a big differnece. That same reasoning applies here too.
I will agree that he has a better chance of improving all-around (except rebounding with Peja, Chandler and West) but so does Billups with the offensive weaponry acquired in the offseason and the departure of the Ben "Baby Mits" Wallace.
So Paul has more chance of improving assists than Billups
Cuz its his 2nd year and he has more talent around him...

The thing with Paul is that he might REALLY have a good season, u never know how good he might do, he has a lot of potential...And thats why he is so high, cuz of his potential...

We'll just have to see how much Potential Paul comes out with...
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Old 10-19-2006, 08:15 PM   #37
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Marion
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:12 PM   #38
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based on actual, current season fantasy production

1) Lebron James
2) Dirk Nowitzki
3) Dwyane Wade
4) Shawn Marion
5) Elton Brand
6) Kobe Bryant
7) Kevin Garnett
8) Allen Iverson
9) Tracy McGrady
10) Tim Duncan

arenas should be here
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:47 PM   #39
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Your damn right he should. Three games of 40+ points already this year, plus 7 three's in one game, to go along with 5/5/2 steals isn't enough? Phhh.
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Old 11-21-2006, 11:12 AM   #40
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based on current season why is howard and emeka and boozer and johnson on none of these lists. especially emeka that guy is on a tear if you can live with the FT%. you guy don't give enough love to the power positions
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Old 11-21-2006, 11:53 AM   #41
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Only one list (the last one) has been made since the season started. Pretty sure even you didn't expect Booze and Emeka to have monster seasons. Hope that answers the question.
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