Bell (honorable mention) and KT (4th or 8th) were once rated among the league's top 15 dirtiest players in an SI poll of actual NBA players.
For some reason, there was high correlation between defensive players and dirtiness. If the league permits it, then I accept it and won't cry when Kwame puts his crotch in Boris' face, or when "Stacklehouse" cracks JJ's face and tries to repeat the feat the next year.
As one noted athlete once said, "Hey, if you ain't cheatin', you ain't trying to win."
Therefore, I applaud the Suns dirty players. May we have a few more helpings of "defense," please?
Of course, perhaps my view is obvious from my avatar. If you saw that, give yourself a gold star, a pat on the back and tell your gf to give one from me!
well i think it is possible to play defense without being overly aggressive but i think what raja tries to do is something to get his team fired up...something to give the suns that spark they need to keep playing with energy...
not a good way to start it but it just happens that he's a really temperamental guy...i mean that look he has it's just pure evil...when he's had enough i guess you can expect some streetball attitude from him cuz that's the way he copes...
it's a shame though...he should really kinda get that under control...he could kick anyone's ass with his game, i highly doubt he has to do it with his body...
From Marty Burns SI on the recent Bell Incident -- mad respect from Artest
Ringing the Bell
Say this much for Suns guard Raja Bell -- he's not afraid to pick on someone his own size. The 6-5 Suns guard earned a flagrant foul for body slamming 7-foot Kings center Brad Miller from behind during an exhibition last week. Miller jumped up, ready to go at Bell, but was restrained.
Not surprisingly, the incident left Ron Artest in Tru Warrior mode after the game. "[Bell is] a good defender, a good player," Artest told the Sacramento Bee. "But he does that dirty stuff sometimes. When he does stuff like that, I want to fight him. I can't do that, of course, but it makes me want to meet him off the floor for a nice little fight."
Bell, who declined to respond to Artest's comments, has been known to stir the pot. Against the Lakers in last year's playoffs, he clotheslined Kobe Bryant and threw him to the floor. Bell was suspended for the next game, but it seemed to spark the Suns to three straight wins as they overcame a 3-1 deficit. It also led to one of the best lines of the year.
After Bryant took a verbal shot at Bell by surmising that the Suns guard needed attention because his mother didn't hug him enough as a kid, Bell's mother spotted Bryant in the arena hallway after the Lakers lost by 31 in Game 7 and said to the Lakers star: "Need a hug, Kobe?"
For the record, Artest and Bell will get a chance to go mano a mano when the Kings and Suns meet for the first time in the regular season on Dec. 5 at Phoenix.
We know Artest is no saint, but the poll also gives an honorable mention to Brad Miller as a dirty player.
"Despite playing in just 23 games (injury, and a strained relationship with coach Bob Hill) Fortson leads the NBA with three ejections; he has seven technicals.... Artest and Brad Miller as well as Phoenix's Raja Bell and Kurt Thomas were the other pairs of teammates who each got at least three votes.... Last year Artest outpolled Fortson 33% to 22%.... Bowen has made five NBA All-Defensive teams."
Therefore, a little banging between several dirty players is like two ships passing in the night - sort of.