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Old 08-21-2009, 12:31 PM   #1
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Angry Boston vs. Orlando

YES Boston without KG did take Orlando to a 7 game series, but do posters realize that Orlando's starting backcourt was:

Rafer Alston
JJ Reddick?!?!

Thats with Alston missing a game due to suspension and Courtney Lee coming back mid series... People are quick to point out Boston wasn't healthy but forget to mention that Orlando was not healthy either! I am by no means saying Orlando is the better team right now but posters are dismissing them much to easily seeing how Orlando's roster is much better equipped to handling a team like the Celtics in a 7 game series (with or without KG)...

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Old 08-21-2009, 12:46 PM   #2
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Are you trying to make a case that Orlando missing Jameer Nelson, is on the same impact level of the Celtics missing KG? The posters on this little board are mindless at best.
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Old 08-21-2009, 12:49 PM   #3
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Are you trying to make a case that Orlando missing Jameer Nelson, is on the same impact level of the Celtics missing KG? The posters on this little board are mindless at best.
Orlando > Boston right now.

Ray, Pierce, KG, Wallace one of these are going to get an injury guaranteed, there's just no way I see all off those 4 players staying healthy. They're too old.

Orlando has

Carter, Howard, Lewis, Nelson, they're all young and maybe Nelson won't come back as good as he was as last year because I view his last year as a fluke like Mike James had one season averaging 20 PPG and the other years he doesn't produce as well as he did before. But I still view Orlando being more deeper than Boston unless Boston acquires Daniels after like a month of negotiating, Orlando might still be better by a bit.

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Old 08-21-2009, 12:53 PM   #4
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Are you trying to make a case that Orlando missing Jameer Nelson, is on the same impact level of the Celtics missing KG? The posters on this little board are mindless at best.
+1........Jameer Nelson could very welll look like a fluke season if he doesn't return to the same form he was last season before he got hurt. Kevin Garnett on the other hand still has the skills and even if he doesn't, he still influences the game in so many more ways than Jameer ever will. Kevin Garnett is a 1st ballot HOFer, I can't say the same for Nelson who just had one good 1st half of a season.

and Boston would easily take out the Magic in 5 games. Easily. You can't even play those uncoventional lineups against this team because Kevin Garnett is mobile and athletic enough to guard Rashard at the 4 or Barnes. Your best bet is probably let Brandon Bass play the 4, but even then Kevin Garnett would still torch the hell out of him.
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Vince Carter is here this time around.
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Old 08-21-2009, 12:56 PM   #6
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If PP is old, so is VC.

Orlando has little post offense. No legit power forwards. And their perimiter players are basically just shooters. VC can create his own shot but even he has a history of settling for jumpers.

People really need to stop overrating this team...
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+1........Jameer Nelson could very welll look like a fluke season if he doesn't return to the same form he was last season before he got hurt. Kevin Garnett on the other hand still has the skills and even if he doesn't, he still influences the game in so many more ways than Jameer ever will. Kevin Garnett is a 1st ballot HOFer, I can't say the same for Nelson who just had one good 1st half of a season.

and Boston would easily take out the Magic in 5 games. Easily. You can't even play those uncoventional lineups against this team because Kevin Garnett is mobile and athletic enough to guard Rashard at the 4 or Barnes. Your best bet is probably let Brandon Bass play the 4, but even then Kevin Garnett would still torch the hell out of him.

Correct. And lets get something very clear, Im by no means even a fan of KG, but trying to even out injury importance with Jameer Nelson vs Kevin Garnett is appaling.

To the other poster who came in and quoted my post, I dont get the reason of your bringing up what these teams look like now, the point of my answer was you cannot compare the impact of Jameer and KG. I could care less who has a better team now.
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If PP is old, so is VC.

Orlando has little post offense. No legit power forwards. And their perimiter players are basically just shooters. VC can create his own shot but even he has a history of settling for jumpers.

People really need to stop overrating this team...
but...but..but....but....he plays for the Magic, VC is as young Kevin Durant!! I agree with you here, if you're going to call out another player for being old look in the mirror at look at Vince. Orlando does have Brandon Bass, but he still has no chance guarding Kevin Garnett. Magic have no post offense, Dwight Howard has no chance in hell scoring against either Perkins or Sheed.

So really, the Magic's best bet to win is if Jameer and Carter outplay Rondo and Ray which honestly not as likely as Pierce and Garnett outplaying Rashard and Bass. Celtics have this in 5, if both teams are healthy.
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If PP is old, so is VC.

Orlando has little post offense. No legit power forwards. And their perimiter players are basically just shooters. VC can create his own shot but even he has a history of settling for jumpers.

People really need to stop overrating this team...
Who's overrating the Magic? Did you read Unstopable's post? He's not saying Orlando is flat out better than Boston. He's simply stating it would be a good series.
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but...but..but....but....he plays for the Magic, VC is as young Kevin Durant!! I agree with you here, if you're going to call out another player for being old look in the mirror at look at Vince. Orlando does have Brandon Bass, but he still has no chance guarding Kevin Garnett. Magic have no post offense, Dwight Howard has no chance in hell scoring against either Perkins or Sheed.

So really, the Magic's best bet to win is if Jameer and Carter outplay Rondo and Ray which honestly not as likely as Pierce and Garnett outplaying Rashard and Bass. Celtics have this in 5, if both teams are healthy.
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Orlando > Boston right now.

Ray, Pierce, KG, Wallace one of these are going to get an injury guaranteed, there's just no way I see all off those 4 players staying healthy. They're too old.

Orlando has

Carter, Howard, Lewis, Nelson, they're all young and maybe Nelson won't come back as good as he was as last year because I view his last year as a fluke like Mike James had one season averaging 20 PPG and the other years he doesn't produce as well as he did before. But I still view Orlando being more deeper than Boston unless Boston acquires Daniels after like a month of negotiating, Orlando might still be better by a bit.
mike james did win a ring too, altho he can't be a 3th or 4th scoring option on winning team, he can still be a nice piece of the puzzle for the right team.
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Old 08-21-2009, 01:06 PM   #12
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If PP is old, so is VC.

Orlando has little post offense. No legit power forwards. And their perimiter players are basically just shooters. VC can create his own shot but even he has a history of settling for jumpers.

People really need to stop overrating this team...
Bass and Anderson can't post up at all right? Howard? Scrub.

Lewis' true position is the PF and that's what he's going to play. With Bass and Anderson backing him up.
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Bass and Anderson can't post up at all right? Howard? Scrub.

Lewis' true position is the PF and that's what he's going to play. With Bass and Anderson backing him up.
Anderson? Since when could he post up? Last I check he was just a 3 point shooter, he's probably underrated but still...Bass? I don't think he can create on his own, very nice finisher and rebounder though. Dwight can't score against the Celtics, see last season's playoff series for examples.

Lewis playing the 4 is just going to help the Celtics more, you do realize KG is mobile and athletic enough to defend him right? Even if he does stretch to the 3 point line, KG isn't Anderson Varejao or Ben Wallace, he's actually athletic and mobile.
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Anderson? Since when could he post up? Last I check he was just a 3 point shooter, he's probably underrated but still...Bass? I don't think he can create on his own, very nice finisher and rebounder though. Dwight can't score against the Celtics, see last season's playoff series for examples.

Lewis playing the 4 is just going to help the Celtics more, you do realize KG is mobile and athletic enough to defend him right? Even if he does stretch to the 3 point line, KG isn't Anderson Varejao or Ben Wallace, he's actually athletic and mobile.
KG athletic at 34 years of age? Doesn't fit, he's still an all star but not as athletic. I guarantee KG will miss at least one game during the playoffs and will not play 82 games during the season.
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I think the Magic will turn some heads yet again next year.
But the old men in Boston will still come out on top...pending the health situation again of course.
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