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Old 10-26-2009, 07:53 AM   #31
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Randy Moss can do it all? Didnt know running deep down the field = doin it all.

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welker is pretty underrated also

guy is the definition of a possession receiver

No he's rated just fine. Welker benefits greatly from Moss.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:31 AM   #32
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Randy Moss can do it all? Didnt know running deep down the field = doin it all.

Watch the Pats more..Randy catches passes all over the field.
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ESPNs top 3 fantasy busts:

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3. Steve Smith (Carolina)

His talents are being wasted because he plays on a team with a sh*tty QB and an offensive coordinator that doesn't realize it.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:34 AM   #34
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Watch the Pats more..Randy catches passes all over the field.

No need to watch Randy Moss. I know his game. He doesnt do everything.

You can rank him #1 all you want. He's that dangerous of a weapon. But dont fabricate his game acting like he does it all. He doesnt.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:47 AM   #35
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I think that right now Miles Austin has to be considered the #1 in Dallas...

ESPNs top 3 fantasy busts:

1. Matt Forte
2. Roy Williams
3. Steve Smith (Carolina)


yeah, we all had high hopes for Roy, and I bet he will still have 2-3 games this year where he puts up good numbers, but I think it is becoming a reality that he just isn't a legit #1...

he doesn't suck, he is still a big huge WR with good hands, but people just need to stop looking at him as somehting more than just a "decent" WR...

How is Smith a bust? You guys do know a receiver does not pass and catch the ball himself? Jake Delhomme is an atrocious starting QB in this league and that's why Smith wants to be traded, I don't blame him.

I feel bad for Jon Beason, that entire team outside of DeAngelo Williams, Steve Smith and Jonathan Stewart are useless, including Julius Peppers; who is probably the most talented defensive player in the league but plays with absolutely no heart.
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How is Smith a bust? You guys do know a receiver does not pass and catch the ball himself? Jake Delhomme is an atrocious starting QB in this league and that's why Smith wants to be traded, I don't blame him.

I feel bad for Jon Beason, that entire team outside of DeAngelo Williams, Steve Smith and Jonathan Stewart are useless, including Julius Peppers; who is probably the most talented defensive player in the league but plays with absolutely no heart.

Yeah he's turned into a bit of a head case although he had a good game yesterday. The defense is starting to gel as a unit. The offense, however is a total mess and it all comes down to the QB.
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There was something on the Fox pregame yesterday about Julius Peppers having an epiphany or something.
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@ Randy Moss being #1.

A. Johnson, Fitz, Smith, Moss and Cal. Johnson are my top five.
How did Ochocinco get back on people's list? Oh yeah I forgot Palmer is finally healthy, the same inconsistent logic that most fans use.

You put Smith on Indianapolis, New England, Cincinnati, Minnesota or any other team with a legit QB; and watch him flourish. Randy Moss last year was no where to be found once Tom Brady was lost for the season, Ochocinco's name hardly came up at all the last two years with an injured Palmer; I haven't even heard about Owens in Buffalo since the beginning of the year.

Yet for the last half decade we heard Smith's name a lot and yet he has played with a QB twice as bad as any of those legit receivers play with. I love cheering for guys like Smith, who are undersized, wear their heart on their sleeves and sacrifice their bodies for the benefit of the team. This guy is fearless and emotional, I pray Minnesota make a move for him. I want him to finish off his career playing with a good QB so people can truly appreciate how good this midget is.

I have always root for a Cinderella story in this league, and Smith defines that script.
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:14 PM   #39
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Watch the Pats more..Randy catches passes all over the field.
Ever heard of the term blocking? Moss Isn't the best at that. If we were just mainly talking about ability to catch the ball, sure you could say he's #1. But there are so many other variables to consider like blocking, which is something Hines Ward is great at, considered the best blocking WR in the league, though he's dirty.

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they are required unless your name is Jerry Rice...

or Steve Smith, except, even though Smith is small, he still has freakish speed...faster than White


Fitz is slow for a WR though...buthe is so huge that it just doesn't matter...

White is awesome and all, but I just don't think he has the tools to be up there with Calvin and Moss...
I agree that Roddy White isn't up there with the real elite WRs, but He's very fast....he doesn't have the explosive speed that a Randy Moss or Andre Johnson has, Fitzgerald doesn't have it either though. But he's very fast in general speaking. There's just something about him that doesn't make him elite, it's hard to describe if you watch him play you would know what I'm talking about. I'm not a fan of Roddy White anyways.

By the way.....Reggie Wayne isn't the most explosive or fastest WR in the league either and he's certianly better than White or certainly up there to be mentioned as a Top 5 WR in the league.
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Calvins the best. He'd do better then Fitz in Arizona if he was on Cards and better then Moss if he was on Pats.
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No he's rated just fine. Welker benefits greatly from Moss.
That's pretty true that he gets help from Moss a lot, I doubt he'd be as great as the #1 guy. He's arguably the most consistent WR in the league though, He's the only one that consistent plays week in and week out and gets the same numbers every time almost. He's a bit underrated, but he'll never be a dominant #1 WR.

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all those guys in the the top 5 are big tall huge ridiculously fast freaks of nature...

White is not...
Well like I said, Wayne ain't a freak of nature and he's average in stature. Same goes for Ochocinco. Neither are really tall, both are amazing at route running though and both have amazing hands.

Ochocinco is just like Moss, they both need a dominant and consistent QB in order to be dominant themselves, then again most WRs in the NFL need that unless your name is Calvin Johnson.
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then again most WRs in the NFL need that unless your name is Calvin Johnson.

Calvin Johnson is 39th in the NFL in yards with only 1 TD...



and no one is like Moss...he is the fastest WR to ever play in the NFL...could have been a gold medal sprinter...the sickest deep threat I have ever seen...

apparently he was a complete bad ass at hoops too...
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Calvin Johnson is 39th in the NFL in yards with only 1 TD...
If you consider last year....1331 yards with 12 TDs....Kind of...It's hard to play with 3 diff. QBs and be Top 10 Stat-Wise in receiving.....

As fast and athletic as Moss is...He just isn't good as far as blocking and intangibles goes. Moss is probably Top 3 as far as catching the ball, but there are just other variables. I honestly factor in skill and craft more than athletic ability. That's why IMO, Wayne is better than Moss. Wayne isn't blessed with Usain Bolt's Feet.
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If you consider last year....1331 yards with 12 TDs....Kind of...It's hard to play with 3 diff. QBs and be Top 10 Stat-Wise in receiving.....

As fast and athletic as Moss is...He just isn't good as far as blocking and intangibles goes. Moss is probably Top 3 as far as catching the ball, but there are just other variables. I honestly factor in skill and craft more than athletic ability. That's why IMO, Wayne is better than Moss. Wayne isn't blessed with Usain Bolt's Feet.
Moss draws 3 DBs to him dude...what the hell does he need to block for?

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