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Old 11-16-2009, 01:19 AM   #16
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And this is news how? Brady has more rings but he's always had complete teams around him. Peyton has had no running game and no defense for most of his career and they've never had both in top shape at the same time.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:21 AM   #17
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all educated football fans laugh @ your list. the only qb arguably better than peyton is montana, maybe brady. (because of super bowls) steve young, brett favre? peyton=aikman/marino?

the fact that you would even think about questioning that young > peyton makes me not even want to engage in a discussion with you.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:22 AM   #18
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And this is news how? Brady has more rings but he's always had complete teams around him. Peyton has had no running game and no defense for most of his career and they've never had both in top shape at the same time.
alot of casual NFL fans can't even name another player on the Pats from his first 2 Super Bowl wins...just Brady and Belichek

who else did they have?
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:29 AM   #19
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steve young- 33,124 yds... 232 tds... 64.3 cmp %... 1 super bowl
peyton manning- 48,173 yds... 349 tds... 64.7 cmp %... 1 super bowl

u better be joking
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:32 AM   #20
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alot of casual NFL fans can't even name another player on the Pats from his first 2 Super Bowl wins...just Brady and Belichek

who else did they have?
So shutting down the Rams was not the most pivotal part of the pats victory?

And lets not forget Deion Branch's record setting night in the second superbowl.
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:33 AM   #21
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steve young- 33,124 yds... 232 tds... 64.3 cmp %... 1 super bowl
peyton manning- 48,173 yds... 349 tds... 64.7 cmp %... 1 super bowl

u better be joking
compare their post season numbers...

not saying Young is better, but it is argueable...

Young had to deal with 90s Cowboys...without them he would have had 3-4 rings...
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:36 AM   #22
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compare their post season numbers...

not saying Young is better, but it is argueable...

Young had to deal with 90s Cowboys...without them he would have had 3-4 rings...
like manning didnt have to deal with the patriots? a team that had a 21 game winning streak and an 18 game winning streak in one decade, and three super bowls.
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like manning didnt have to deal with the patriots? a team that had a 21 game winning streak and an 18 game winning streak in one decade, and three super bowls.
true, but didn't the Chargers end the Colts a couple times? or was that just once?

the Steve Young 49ers were in the NFC Championship game like every f*ckin year...
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:58 AM   #26
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And this is news how? Brady has more rings but he's always had complete teams around him. Peyton has had no running game and no defense for most of his career and they've never had both in top shape at the same time.

I don't think he had that much talent around him earlier on in the WR core and lately NE haven't had much of a run game. Which came back to bite them in the ass in this game.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:27 AM   #27
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steve young- 33,124 yds... 232 tds... 64.3 cmp %... 1 super bowl
peyton manning- 48,173 yds... 349 tds... 64.7 cmp %... 1 super bowl

u better be joking

remember that random quarterback that played for the 49ers that kept young on the bench until his 30s? whats his name?
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:30 AM   #28
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So shutting down the Rams was not the most pivotal part of the pats victory?

And lets not forget Deion Branch's record setting night in the second superbowl.

Yea, Branch really set the world on fire after leaving the Pats didn't he? Before Moss/Welker, Brady had very weak talent at RB/WR/TE.

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And this is news how? Brady has more rings but he's always had complete teams around him. Peyton has had no running game and no defense for most of his career and they've never had both in top shape at the same time.

What is Edgerrin James, a scrub? And Indy's defense was always much maligned, but in Peyton's playoff career his team has only given up 20.4 PPG, and outside the New England game were the dominant factor in the Super Bowl run.
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remember that random quarterback that played for the 49ers that kept young on the bench until his 30s? whats his name?

Joe Idaho or something like that.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:33 AM   #30
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Brady did not have very weak talent.
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