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Old 11-16-2009, 11:35 PM   #1
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I don't get all of the commentary about how Jennings NBA success is proving that going to europe in lieu of college is now a good idea. Doesn't it prove the opposite? Doesn't it show that he was... chosen to late? And why was he chosen so late, might it be because he sucked while in Europe?

Let's take a look at what could have happened. He could have gone to college and easily been the best freshman player. Given what he's doing now, it would have happened. And he would have been drafted at #2 behind Griffith, who was a force of nature. But seeing as how Thabeet was taken #2, a freshman phenom Jennings is an easy #2.

The rookie salary scale for a #2 pick would give him 11.98 million guaranteed for 3 years. For a #10 pick he gets 5.8 million guaranteed. Plus the 1.65 million contract for his european team and the 2 million in endorsements that he couldn't have gotten in college. So that's 11.98 million vs 9.47 million.

Jennings is -2.5 million for choosing to go to europe. Why are people lauding the decision now?
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:36 PM   #2
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Did you really need to do math to figure out that he'd make more money if he was picked higher?
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Jenning is doing pretty well so far.
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Jennings is -2.5 million for choosing to go to europe. Why are people lauding the decision now?


B/c even HE says it was good for him. It made him grow up and humbled his ass which he clearly needed b/c he was too lazy to even makes the grades for college. Dude thought he was Gods gift and needed to learn from real pros vs going to a college where he would have been coddled like the child he was.
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I don't get all of the commentary about how Jennings NBA success is proving that going to europe in lieu of college is now a good idea. Doesn't it prove the opposite? Doesn't it show that he was... chosen to late? And why was he chosen so late, might it be because he sucked while in Europe?

Let's take a look at what could have happened. He could have gone to college and easily been the best freshman player. Given what he's doing now, it would have happened. And he would have been drafted at #2 behind Griffith, who was a force of nature. But seeing as how Thabeet was taken #2, a freshman phenom Jennings is an easy #2.

The rookie salary scale for a #2 pick would give him 11.98 million guaranteed for 3 years. For a #10 pick he gets 5.8 million guaranteed. Plus the 1.65 million contract for his european team and the 2 million in endorsements that he couldn't have gotten in college. So that's 11.98 million vs 9.47 million.

Jennings is -2.5 million for choosing to go to europe. Why are people lauding the decision now?
He will get paid no matter what, because when his rookie deal is up, he's going to get enough to where that 2.5 is meaningless.

Also, by going overseas, he avoided being exploited. Maybe he felt that was more important.
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I don't get all of the commentary about how Jennings NBA success is proving that going to europe in lieu of college is now a good idea. Doesn't it prove the opposite? Doesn't it show that he was... chosen to late? And why was he chosen so late, might it be because he sucked while in Europe?

Let's take a look at what could have happened. He could have gone to college and easily been the best freshman player. Given what he's doing now, it would have happened. And he would have been drafted at #2 behind Griffith, who was a force of nature. But seeing as how Thabeet was taken #2, a freshman phenom Jennings is an easy #2.

The rookie salary scale for a #2 pick would give him 11.98 million guaranteed for 3 years. For a #10 pick he gets 5.8 million guaranteed. Plus the 1.65 million contract for his european team and the 2 million in endorsements that he couldn't have gotten in college. So that's 11.98 million vs 9.47 million.

Jennings is -2.5 million for choosing to go to europe. Why are people lauding the decision now?

Guess, who´ll get a max contract in four years and who will be out of the league. Unless he suffers a career ending injury in the next three years he wins. Don´t forget he also traded the chance of a career-ending injury in college for a guaranteed deal in Italy, which depending on the option clauses on the contract could have been guaranteed for three years.
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Maybe he wouldn't be as good a player right now if he had gone to college instead of Europe.
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:46 PM   #9
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Default Re: Do the math, going to europe hurt jennings

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I don't get all of the commentary about how Jennings NBA success is proving that going to europe in lieu of college is now a good idea. Doesn't it prove the opposite? Doesn't it show that he was... chosen to late? And why was he chosen so late, might it be because he sucked while in Europe?

Let's take a look at what could have happened. He could have gone to college and easily been the best freshman player. Given what he's doing now, it would have happened. And he would have been drafted at #2 behind Griffith, who was a force of nature. But seeing as how Thabeet was taken #2, a freshman phenom Jennings is an easy #2.

The rookie salary scale for a #2 pick would give him 11.98 million guaranteed for 3 years. For a #10 pick he gets 5.8 million guaranteed. Plus the 1.65 million contract for his european team and the 2 million in endorsements that he couldn't have gotten in college. So that's 11.98 million vs 9.47 million.

Jennings is -2.5 million for choosing to go to europe. Why are people lauding the decision now?

You're missing the obvious answer to the question you're asking:

I don't get all of the commentary about how Jennings NBA success is proving that going to europe in lieu of college is now a good idea.

No one is saying it worked out salary-wise for HIM so far. What many people are saying is that, with him as an example, players now will see going to europe as good training AND GM's will see the same.

No doubt that, after Jennings, GM's will take a much closer look at someone who does the same with Europe and value that experience much more.

And for him, how much more will he now earn in future contracts because of his stellar play? (assuming Europe helped prepare him for the NBA the way it's perceived to have)
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If you can attribute any of Jenning's success to his time in Europe, than it was worth it. He can make up that $2.5M in future contracts if he continues to thrive.
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Thank god I don't need math to figure out this is the worst thread in November.
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If he went number 2 in the draft, he would be playing with Mayo, Gay, Randolph and Gasol. Who says he'd be playing as well as he is now on the Bucks? Due to that he'd more likely get a bigger contract in Milwaukee by showing he can drop 20ppg each night, than in Memphis dropping 8-10ppg behind all the other scorers.

So, he'd make more money this way, and it turned out for the best.
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:58 PM   #13
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1. He's played 10 games, let's see him do it over the course of a couple of years

2. The amount of money he makes on his rookie contract may be less, but long term he learned a lot in Europe that could help him land the really big contract in about 4 years.

Europe isn't for everyone, but he already knows how to play basketball apparently. He needed to grow up, and so far he has.
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Actually if he went to college he most likely wouldnt have been the #2 pick in the draft. He would have been playing with another PG in Nic Wise and therefore would have been playing SG and off the ball more. Also would have been playing for a JUCO coach in Russ Pennell.
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