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Old 11-24-2009, 01:29 PM   #1
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Default you guys are sleeping on Vince Young.

i remember a thread awhile back asking who will be better young or russell?
and 3/4 of the poster here said russell I'm just saying young has won everywhere he's been.
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Old 11-24-2009, 01:44 PM   #2
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Default Re: you guys are sleeping on Vince Young.

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i remember a thread awhile back asking who will be better young or russell?
and 3/4 of the poster here said russell I'm just saying young has won everywhere he's been.

Russell as in Jamarcus? I hope people didn't say that Jamarcus would be better. I didn't see that in college, draft night or at anytime with the Raiders. Vince is doing good and I hope he keeps it up. Jamarcus should never play another down for the Raiders unless he plays fullback of defensive tackle.
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Old 11-24-2009, 01:49 PM   #3
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Default Re: you guys are sleeping on Vince Young.

young is pretty efficient when he has a great running game, and thats exactly what the titans have.
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Old 11-24-2009, 02:19 PM   #4
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Default Re: you guys are sleeping on Vince Young.

Eh, the real reason they are winning is Chris Johnson. They have won all but one game hes rushed for over 100 yards and lost the rest. These 4 games in a row they have won, hes been on an absolute tear. The least amount of yards hes rushed for has been 132. That would be a career day for most RBs and thats the LEAST of what hes done. The 228 yards rushing against the Jags and the 132 yards rushing/100 yards receiving against the Bills were both amazing. Vince Young is good, but his numbers are below average. If not for Johnson blowing up these last 4 games, they wouldnt be winning anything.

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Old 11-24-2009, 02:50 PM   #5
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Default Re: you guys are sleeping on Vince Young.

^Vince was winning before Chris Johnson got there. Check the man's record as a starting QB. Chris has exploded since Vince has been back under center. The way that OC Heimerdinger is utilizing all of Vince's talents is hell on defensive players because whichever poison you choose, whether it be Vince or Chris will be lethal.
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Old 11-24-2009, 03:46 PM   #6
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^Vince was winning before Chris Johnson got there. Check the man's record as a starting QB. Chris has exploded since Vince has been back under center. The way that OC Heimerdinger is utilizing all of Vince's talents is hell on defensive players because whichever poison you choose, whether it be Vince or Chris will be lethal.


I am talking about this year. I know ESPN showed that stat where VY is 21-11, the 4th best record of QBs drafted since 2000. The problem is all he does is win regular season games. The other 3 ahead of him (Brady, Roethlisberger and Rivers) have all won big playoff games, 2 have championships. I need to see VY win some meaningful playoff games before I consider him anything more than a decent QB. As I said, his numbers are very average.
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Old 11-24-2009, 04:47 PM   #7
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Default Re: you guys are sleeping on Vince Young.

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Eh, the real reason they are winning is Chris Johnson. They have won all but one game hes rushed for over 100 yards and lost the rest. These 4 games in a row they have won, hes been on an absolute tear. The least amount of yards hes rushed for has been 132. That would be a career day for most RBs and thats the LEAST of what hes done. The 228 yards rushing against the Jags and the 132 yards rushing/100 yards receiving against the Bills were both amazing. Vince Young is good, but his numbers are below average. If not for Johnson blowing up these last 4 games, they wouldnt be winning anything.

CJ is ripping it up though because people have to account for VY as well. That option play in which he has got a lot of yards over the last 4 weeks isn't possible to run with Collins. Also one should notice how much 3rd downs the Titans convert under VY compared to Collins. I don't have the exact numbers in front of me but I know the Titans conversion rate was abysmal especially in the 4th quarter in a close game. For example, In the Pit game when he had numerous incompletions in a row the same story from the Bal playoff game and the Jets game where he had 13-14 straight incompletions. VY is also playing steady ball not turning over the ball(only 2 in 4 games) and managing the game. That is what a Jeff Fisher team does, they run the football and limit mistakes and usually rely on the Defense although this year the defense has disappointed.
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Old 11-25-2009, 09:23 AM   #8
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Default Re: you guys are sleeping on Vince Young.

I remember the thread where people was trashing him.. I said it then and Ill say it again.. there is something special about Vince Young..

he is a winner...
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Old 11-25-2009, 09:42 AM   #9
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Default Re: you guys are sleeping on Vince Young.

Vince young is an average QB surrounded by talent (this Titans team did go 14-2 last year.) Vince has always had a good running game to support him (even before Chris Johnson i.e. Travis Henry) and besides this year the Titans have had a good defense. Vince isn't a good QB by any means, he's basically the 2nd coming of Kordell Stewart. I don't think Vince will ever throw for more then 20 TD's in a year.

Vince is somewhere around the Alex Smith's level.

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Old 11-25-2009, 10:08 AM   #10
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Default Re: you guys are sleeping on Vince Young.

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Russell as in Jamarcus? I hope people didn't say that Jamarcus would be better. I didn't see that in college, draft night or at anytime with the Raiders. Vince is doing good and I hope he keeps it up. Jamarcus should never play another down for the Raiders unless he plays fullback of defensive tackle.
But you said it in that thread.

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Old 11-25-2009, 01:02 PM   #11
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Default Re: you guys are sleeping on Vince Young.

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Vince young is an average QB surrounded by talent (this Titans team did go 14-2 last year.) Vince has always had a good running game to support him (even before Chris Johnson i.e. Travis Henry) and besides this year the Titans have had a good defense. Vince isn't a good QB by any means, he's basically the 2nd coming of Kordell Stewart. I don't think Vince will ever throw for more then 20 TD's in a year.

Vince is somewhere around the Alex Smith's level.

No thats not true at all, Vince is a much better QB than Smith, and when he's on his game a lot better than Stewart ever was either. I would go further into what I feel about this but I'll just quote myself from the last Vince Young thread.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=152896

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The thing with Vince Young is he was always able to pull that Titan team to Ws even when he didn't have that much talent around him. He carried a 4 win Titan team to a .500 record in 06 and to the playoffs in 07 and only lost his job last year after he got hurt.

He deserves a full year with the starting job, and a go-to receiver before we can really assess him.
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Old 12-18-2011, 09:43 PM   #12
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I remember the thread where people was trashing him.. I said it then and Ill say it again.. there is something special about Vince Young..

he is a winner...
Just bumped any Vince Young thread I could find so I could show everyone how Philly fans think of Vince Young. What a horrible signing this was. ****ing trash.
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Vince young is an average QB surrounded by talent (this Titans team did go 14-2 last year.) Vince has always had a good running game to support him (even before Chris Johnson i.e. Travis Henry) and besides this year the Titans have had a good defense. Vince isn't a good QB by any means, he's basically the 2nd coming of Kordell Stewart. I don't think Vince will ever throw for more then 20 TD's in a year.

Vince is somewhere around the Alex Smith's level.

It's funny..... I don't even remember being a vince young hater lol. I was right for the most part except for him being on Alex Smith's level. That's a
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3/4 of the posters said Russell would be better than Young? I'd LOVE to see that thread.
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