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Old 12-24-2009, 02:37 AM   #1
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Question Peyton Manning = G.O.A.T.?

Would a record fourth M.V.P. award and a 19-0 season cement Peyton Manning as the greatest quarterback in N.F.L. history?
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Old 12-24-2009, 03:39 AM   #2
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Default Re: Peyton Manning = G.O.A.T.?

If that happened, I don't think I would argue against those that say so...

and if some how Favre wins a ring this year at the age of 40, I am not sure I would bother to argue against the people that claim him as the GOAT either...


Montana needs to be rooting for Romo...
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Old 12-24-2009, 03:52 AM   #3
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Default Re: Peyton Manning = G.O.A.T.?

In a word, yes.
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Old 12-24-2009, 04:57 AM   #4
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all those plus another superbowl ring...no doubt goat
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Old 12-24-2009, 06:34 AM   #5
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If that happened, I don't think I would argue against those that say so...

and if some how Favre wins a ring this year at the age of 40, I am not sure I would bother to argue against the people that claim him as the GOAT either...


Montana needs to be rooting for Romo...

brady is getting ring #4 and super bowl mvp #3 this year
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Old 12-24-2009, 01:32 PM   #6
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Default Re: Peyton Manning = G.O.A.T.?

No.

That puts too much emphasis on a team oriented goal. There are too many things that the quarterback has no control over in the course of a game that dictates whether you win or lose.

I'm not going to think of Manning any differently if the team wins the superbowl or not. If we win it will be because our team steps up and does what it needs to do. I'm not willing to give Manning most of the credit if the team wins it all - it's uinfair to the other 50 some players and numerous coaches.
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No.
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Old 12-24-2009, 02:13 PM   #8
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Default Re: Peyton Manning = G.O.A.T.?

not yet but he's getting there.
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Default Re: Peyton Manning = G.O.A.T.?

No, he needs to win the superbowl and superbowl mvp on a 19 win season to be in the GOAT discussion. There is no way a guy with just one superbowl ring is the GOAT, even if he has 4 regular season MVP's.
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No, he needs to win the superbowl and superbowl mvp on a 19 win season to be in the GOAT discussion. There is no way a guy with just one superbowl ring is the GOAT, even if he has 4 regular season MVP's.
And yet Brette Favre manages to be in that discussion year after year with his one superbowl ring.
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And yet Brette Favre manages to be in that discussion year after year with his one superbowl ring.

well you wont see me calling Favre the GOAT
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well you wont see me calling Favre the GOAT
There's so many players that go into winning a championship when talking about the NFL. Therefore, I think a ring vs ring argument becomes as close to irrelevant as it gets. The Patriots had the best team (yes team, not player) in the NFL all those "dynasty" years and therefore you can't just say, "Tom Brady has 3 so that means he's >>>> Manning"
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Default Re: Peyton Manning = G.O.A.T.?

Marino has no rings, there are some people that call him the greatest...

in fact, there are some people that already call Peyton the greatest right now...

I for one do think that rings matter with the QB position...can any of you telling me why Romo isn't elite without using the word "WINNING"...

right now I have Montana as the undisputed GOAT...if Peyton leads his team to an 19-0 season, along with an MVP and a SBMVP...and on top of that, he is on pace to touch alot of all time records...it is impossible to argue against it...
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Default Re: Peyton Manning = G.O.A.T.?

All Peyton needs is one more Super Bowl win and he'll easily go down as the GOAT QB. Indy doesn't even have to go undefeated this season. He is without question the smartest QB and you can't argue that.
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All Peyton needs is one more Super Bowl win and he'll easily go down as the GOAT QB. Indy doesn't even have to go undefeated this season. He is without question the smartest QB and you can't argue that.
if he just wins another ring and that is it then I still give the nod to Montana...

Montana holds post-season records for most career touchdown passes (45), passing yards (5,772), and games with 300+ passing yards (6), among others. In his four Super Bowls, Montana completed 83 of 122 passes for 1,142 yards and 11 touchdowns with no interceptions, earning him a passer rating of 127.8. Montana led his team to victory in each game, and is the only player ever to win three Super Bowl MVP awards. He played in eight Pro Bowls.

^^^ Peyton can't touch that...

he really needs the undefeated thing to back up his claim IMO...something that Montana never did...
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