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Old 12-23-2009, 11:50 PM   #1
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Default State of the Spurs

Well it's 30 games in, theres a lot of basketball yet to be played but losing to the Trailblazers without Roy, Przybilla and Oden while having all of the big 3 healthy as well as a healthy vastly improved bench doesn't look great. Where are the Spurs going with their "big 4?" Jefferson has not produced as much as they hoped he would. Ginobli is a shell of himself and the Spurs are just not gelling as well as they should. I know Pop likes to experiment with the lineup before the "rodeo" road-trip in February but the spurs should be better than 15-11. Thoughts?
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Old 12-23-2009, 11:58 PM   #2
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I didnt watch the game but how the hell do you lose when Roy isnt playing, you have your best players healthy and you are at home?

Pathetic.

Where ya'll at spurs fans?

At the same time, you have to give the blazers their props,. They play hard regardless. I like teams like that. You can put the Rockets in that category too.
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:01 AM   #3
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i dont really know where we are at. pretty pissed off after that loss but look at the standings
we are 15-11 with a win tonight we would of been in 5th seeding. all west teams have played more games then the spurs so it will even out. if you are asking wether we are worried about playoff seeding definately not. we could end up being #2 the way the west is. the seeding will be there. a little worried about ginobili though i dont think hes 100 percent. we need bonner and finley back.
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:02 AM   #4
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Parker is probably the best score-first point guard in the game, which is fine as long as you dont need him to playmake. Now manu has declined and there is really no one else on the team who can create. RJ can't, Duncan is good for a big man but is still a pf not a guard, Dice/Bonner can't. And their backup pg is also a score first pointguard.

So now Parker is being asked to be a real pg, something he really has never had to do, and score less. But things aren't going so well, he is stagnating the offense and his TO are up. Things aren't helped by the fact that manu has not gotten back to the level he used to be at (and it is questionable if he ever will), and the new guys are taking a while to fit in.

Their future success depends mostly on the ability of parker to lift his game and start playmaking more.

Whats sad is that Duncan has been playing lights out and despite all the off-season moves, is still having to carry the team.
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:04 AM   #5
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Default Re: State of the Spurs

Uhm.....sorry for the loss? I don't get what we are suppose to say?

How come nobody makes threads about us when we win?
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:04 AM   #6
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They are just chillin' till the playoffs
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:07 AM   #7
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Default Re: State of the Spurs

I wouldn't be too worried. The Spurs are still better than Portland. The Spurs just got beat by the unexpected. If we met with the lineups in the same state a month from now, or if we had entered the game with Joel and Roy, I would expect a Spurs win.

The element of surprise doesn't just help in war. We got great production out of Howard, and our young guys surprised the Spurs with a scrappy, swarming defense-by-committee that plugged up the paint. Given time to prepare, the Spurs would likely use more inside-out sets, and wear us out by shooting over the top. They would also likely pack it in even more and relegate us to a jump shooting team-- which has been painful for us lately.

Bayless would still have a huge game if we gave him the touches and the green light to attack at will. Many of the other guys have been up-and-down, though.
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:09 AM   #8
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How come nobody makes threads about us when we win?
Probably because most of the Spurs wins were against mediocre teams?
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I am going to love bumping all these threads back to the front page come Playoff time.
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:13 AM   #10
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I am going to love bumping all these threads back to the front page come Playoff time.


When they're bounced out in the first, or second round? This team isnt "it" anymore man.


They should look into making some trades at this point, because thus far, I dont see this team making ANY real noise.
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They've lost alot on defense the past three years. Especially Duncan.
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:44 AM   #12
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Parker is probably the best score-first point guard in the game, which is fine as long as you dont need him to playmake. Now manu has declined and there is really no one else on the team who can create. RJ can't, Duncan is good for a big man but is still a pf not a guard, Dice/Bonner can't. And their backup pg is also a score first pointguard.

So now Parker is being asked to be a real pg, something he really has never had to do, and score less. But things aren't going so well, he is stagnating the offense and his TO are up. Things aren't helped by the fact that manu has not gotten back to the level he used to be at (and it is questionable if he ever will), and the new guys are taking a while to fit in.

Their future success depends mostly on the ability of parker to lift his game and start playmaking more.

Whats sad is that Duncan has been playing lights out and despite all the off-season moves, is still having to carry the team.

Hmm Interesting. I'm asking because I haven't watched a Spurs game the entire season, not even that Spurs-Celtics game. Like I mentioned, Pop likes to tinkle with the lineups until February so I guess that's a factor as well

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I am going to love bumping all these threads back to the front page come Playoff time.

No one is attacking your team bra, I was just wondering what spurs fans felt the direction the team is going. What do you guys think about RJ? Bust?
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Old 12-24-2009, 05:48 AM   #13
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Default Re: State of the Spurs

The Spurs simply cannot beat playoff caliber teams anymore. I mean look at how they have done this season against them:
Lost 3 times to Utah
Lost twice to Portland
1-1 against Dallas
Lost to the Suns
Lost to the Nuggets
Lost to the Celtics
Lost to the Thunder
Won against the Rockets
That is the most telling stat about them imo. They are a combined 2-10 against those teams and can't win on the road either. As someone who watches a lot of their games, they always seem to get close to teams in the 4th and pull within three late, but can't close out games and end up losing against good teams. ginobili has had a problem of playing well against good teams and bad against bad teams, and Parker had been inconsistent as well. Duncan is the only one consistent for them and they also have a lot of stretches where they play sloppy, really un-Spur like.
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Old 12-24-2009, 06:31 AM   #14
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I didnt watch the game but how the hell do you lose when Roy isnt playing, you have your best players healthy and you are at home?

Pathetic.

Where ya'll at spurs fans?

At the same time, you have to give the blazers their props,. They play hard regardless. I like teams like that. You can put the Rockets in that category too.

Portland were on a back to back as well which is more of a eye opener to me.
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Old 12-24-2009, 07:31 AM   #15
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Default Re: State of the Spurs

It's pretty simple really. Having Matt Bonner or Antonio McDyess guard perimeter big men isn't a strategy, it is suicide.

Look at their possible playoff opponents:

Lakers (Odom)
Mavs (Dirk)
Suns (Amare, Frye)
Jazz (Okur)
Blazers (Aldridge)

They CANNOT match-up with any of these teams. Until the Spurs address this problem, they are not a threat to do anything in the West.
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