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Old 01-07-2010, 12:16 AM   #16
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maybe you and you're team need to get on that championship medicine. its produces rings
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:17 AM   #17
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OJ Mayo> Manu Ginobili

and you don't want me to the head to head matchups from last year that proves it. We play you guys 2 times in the next 2 weeks so Manu will get exposed just like Mayo exposed Roy last night.

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. OJ Mayo
4. Brandon Roy ( after last night Mayo has to move up)
5. Joe Johnson
6. Vince Carter
7.Manu Ginobili
8. Kevin Martin
9. Ray Allen
10. JR Smith

LOL biggest homer post of the week right here. go ahead and post why you think mayo is better then ginobili. i cant wait for those games either.
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:18 AM   #18
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OJ Mayo> Manu Ginobili

and you don't want me to the head to head matchups from last year that proves it. We play you guys 2 times in the next 2 weeks so Manu will get exposed just like Mayo exposed Roy last night.

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. OJ Mayo
4. Brandon Roy ( after last night Mayo has to move up)
5. Joe Johnson
6. Vince Carter
7.Manu Ginobili
8. Kevin Martin
9. Ray Allen
10. JR Smith

this is a retarded list
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:18 AM   #19
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right now, you are on the same medicine as spursdynasty.
i guess iam but manu to me is still better then then roy and johnson
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:23 AM   #21
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You forgot to add the parenthesis (when healthy)
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You forgot to add the parenthesis (when healthy)

you got me there good thing hes healthy :P
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1. kobe
2. wade
3. ginobili
4. roy
5. joe johnson




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1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. OJ Mayo
4. Brandon Roy ( after last night Mayo has to move up)
5. Joe Johnson
6. Vince Carter
7.Manu Ginobili
8. Kevin Martin
9. Ray Allen
10. JR Smith

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LOL biggest homer post of the week right here. go ahead and post why you think mayo is better then ginobili. i cant wait for those games either.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1&p2=ginobma01

Mayo 25 points 3 rebs 3 assists 53% FG 91% FT
Manu 14 points 3 rebs 3 assists 51% FG 86% FT

head to head in 4 games.


I have never been a stat person i do the eye test. It is a totally different season let's see how they play Jan 12th i believe this thread will be bookmarked and bumped when we beat you guys.
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:29 AM   #25
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http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1&p2=ginobma01

Mayo 25 points 3 rebs 3 assists 53% FG 91% FT
Manu 14 points 3 rebs 3 assists 51% FG 86% FT

head to head in 4 games.


I have never been a stat person i do the eye test. It is a totally different season let's see how they play Jan 12th i believe this thread will be bookmarked and bumped when we beat you guys.

why dont you post the minutes along with that?? lol.. one player has his own team to run the other player is the 3rd scoring option on his team
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:29 AM   #26
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Default Re: manu ginobili is still a top 3 SG in this league

so good to see ginobili healthy and getting back to his old tricks. he's been getting more and more of those heady steals like we saw tonight. those are the kinda clutch plays that win games for us.

he's also shooting the 3 really well - in fact he's the best of the elite SGs mentioned in this thread. him being able to knock that shot down has really opened up the rest of his game. he's still able to get to the rim at will and his pick and roll game with duncan and blair has been solid.

fans wanna see 20/5/5 or better in a shooting guard and manu's days of playing around that level are probably over - especially considering he's playing about 12 minutes less per game than kobe/wade/roy/jj.. so statistically he won't rank in the top 5, but as far as intangibles, clutch play, and decision making he's as good as they come for my money.

as a go to guy in the playoffs, you know you can always call ginobili's number to make plays on both ends down the stretch - in that moment he is capable of playing at the level of any aforementioned SG. he's not going to carry the offense for the whole game like the other guys, but with the balanced attack the spurs have, he's the perfect complement and a serious closer.
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Default Re: manu ginobili is still a top 3 SG in this league

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http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1&p2=ginobma01

Mayo 25 points 3 rebs 3 assists 53% FG 91% FT
Manu 14 points 3 rebs 3 assists 51% FG 86% FT

head to head in 4 games.


I have never been a stat person i do the eye test. It is a totally different season let's see how they play Jan 12th i believe this thread will be bookmarked and bumped when we beat you guys.


Don't even try and get away with that...

Let's add

Manu MPG = 24

May MPG = 44

Adjusting for minutes played Manu's stats ARE WAY BETTER.
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:39 AM   #28
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This is almost worse than Jinxed thread claiming Deng is better than Kobe.


You really think Ginobili is better than Roy and Johnson?
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:43 AM   #29
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why dont you post the minutes along with that?? lol.. one player has his own team to run the other player is the 3rd scoring option on his team

mayo 174 minutes
gino 96 minutes

in almost twice the minutes mayo averaged about 10 more ppg on 10 more FGA

also, in ginobili's limited time (24.3 minutes compared to 43.5) he averaged more rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, less turnovers, and less fouls. had the minutes been comparable this would have been ugly.

also ginobili was coming back from his injury/surgery in the first two games. (he only played 11 minutes in the first game)

also perhaps most importantly oj mayo's team lost every single game
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Don't even try and get away with that...

Let's add

Manu MPG = 24

May MPG = 44

Adjusting for minutes played Manu's stats ARE WAY BETTER.


Manu doesn't play 40 minutes a game because HE CAN'T. Guy can barely stay healthy playing 24 minutes off the bench, and you want to adjust his stats as if his production would remain constant with increased playtime?!?


I'll give you Manu's stats if he average 40 MPG:


Ginobili - DNP - Injured
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