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Old 03-14-2010, 03:54 PM   #136
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Default Re: John Wall 9 pts, 6 reb, 4 ast against Tennessee in the first half

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People will sag off this guy gor his whope career. HE CAN'T SHOOT.
neither could lebron out of HS. good job though man. whats your personal beef with Wall? you know Lebron loves him right? shouldnt you follow everything your idol does? i dont get you man.
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:55 PM   #137
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Default John Wall is the improved version of Rajon Rondo nothing more.

The only reason he gets so much attention is because his team is so stacked they keep winning games and youtube highlights. Not even the best player on his team that's how good they are. 28-2. Wall goes to a school like UCONN or something with a pretty good record he isn't getting ESPN hype.

Anybody that watches him it because painfully clear that he really is just an improved version of Rajon Rondo as the great PleezeBelieve points out. We just don't want to believe that we want him to be the next Magic Johnson. The guy has yet to put up any great statistically games in college.

Right now and all he will be is an improved version of Rajon Rondo. He shoots competently to the point where you don't sag 7 ft off him in the halfcourt, just as fast, taller, stronger, just as athletic etc. Rondo is averaging 14 points and 10 assists right now. I see Wall averaging 17 or 18 points and 7-9 assists throughout most of his career. Not the next Magic Johnson
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Default Re: John Wall is the improved version of Rajon Rondo nothing more.

its not always easy to put up these stats that everyone lives on in college basketball. michael jordan didn't exactly average 30 at UNC you know? whats wrong with an improved version of rondo? wall plays great D and leads a helluva fast break and can pass as well. if he can work on his shot because i think he can to the extent that rondo can't, than thats fine.
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:00 PM   #139
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Default Re: John Wall is the improved version of Rajon Rondo nothing more.

Well considering that Rajon Rondo is a very good player i think Wall can be great. He has a sweet jumper unlike Rondo and can be very clutch( he hit a game winner in his first game for Kentucky). If the nets draft him and land lebron then we can be seeing a championship New Jersey team.
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Default Re: John Wall is the improved version of Rajon Rondo nothing more.

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its not always easy to put up these stats that everyone lives on in college basketball. michael jordan didn't exactly average 30 at UNC you know? whats wrong with an improved version of rondo? wall plays great D and leads a helluva fast break and can pass as well. if he can work on his shot because i think he can to the extent that rondo can't, than thats fine.

major fail, most people projected him to be the no.1 pick in this year's draft, before he even committed to kentucky, there was talk about him skipping college to enter last year's draft which he still would be a top 3 pick.
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Default Re: John Wall is the improved version of Rajon Rondo nothing more.

Considering the fact that Rondo is arguably a Top 5 PG, I guess Wall is Top 3.
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major fail, most people projected him to be the no.1 pick in this year's draft, before he even committed to kentucky, there was talk about him skipping college to enter last year's draft which he still would be a top 3 pick.
where exactly was the major fail?
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:13 PM   #143
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Default Re: John Wall is the improved version of Rajon Rondo nothing more.

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its not always easy to put up these stats that everyone lives on in college basketball. michael jordan didn't exactly average 30 at UNC you know? whats wrong with an improved version of rondo? wall plays great D and leads a helluva fast break and can pass as well. if he can work on his shot because i think he can to the extent that rondo can't, than thats fine.

Jordan averged 20 ppg 5.5 rebs on 53% FG his sophomore season. Bob Knight even said in the summer of 84' before Jordan NBA career started. That at the Olympics practices Jordan was better than any player he had ever seen before including Larry and Bird.

Anybody with eyes can tell you John Wall isn't even anywhere as close to be as good as advertised. In a non statistically approach. I was expected more than improved version of Rondo. ( which is no easy feat). I was expecting a Magic Johnson type of impact player at the point guard position. This guy will never be the best PG in the NBA. He may not even be top 3 pg in NBA ever with Chris Paul,Deron Wiliams being so young. Then you have really young players whoo are clearly better than him like Derrick Rose,Tyreke Evans, and Russell Westbrook.

Watching Wall live is almost as disappointing as when i first watched Ricky Rubio at the Olympics. It really is on that level.
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Default Re: John Wall is the improved version of Rajon Rondo nothing more.

An improved Rondo would be nice?
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Everytime PB has something negative to say about Wall the guy does something special in a game to make him look stupid, hilarious
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everybody hypes this guy
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Jordan averged 20 ppg 5.5 rebs on 53% FG his sophomore season. Bob Knight even said in the summer of 84' before Jordan NBA career started. That at the Olympics practices Jordan was better than any player he had ever seen before including Larry and Bird.

Anybody with eyes can tell you John Wall isn't even anywhere as close to be as good as advertised. In a non statistically approach. I was expected more than improved version of Rondo. ( which is no easy feat). I was expecting a Magic Johnson type of impact player at the point guard position. This guy will never be the best PG in the NBA. He may not even be top 3 pg in NBA ever with Chris Paul,Deron Wiliams being so young. Then you have really young players whoo are clearly better than him like Derrick Rose,Tyreke Evans, and Russell Westbrook.

Watching Wall live is almost as disappointing as when i first watched Ricky Rubio at the Olympics. It really is on that level.

I'm not quite sure what the point of comparing Jordan as a sophomore to Wall as a Freshman is, but the kid was touted as a program changer and so far he's led his team to a SEC conference championship, a 32-2 record, all while averaging 17/6/4 and picking up SEC player of the year honours along the way (all as a damn freshman). Sorry you expected Jesus with a Ball, but most rational people just expected a great basketball player, which is what he is
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the nets better hope they get the first pick of this year draft. the top prospect john wall is amazing this guy is as fast as derrick rose he has good court vision he a great leader and the best thing about him is his ability to take over games like what derrick rose did in memphis and chi town and what tyreke evans did in memphis. Wall is a stud this guy can be the best point in the nba like in 3 years if he works on his shooting. his height, speed and hoops put him in a rare category among points guards

Wall is no Derrick Rose.
I am not even convinced he is better than Stephen Curry who is averaging 16/4/5 as a rookie
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I'm not quite sure what the point of comparing Jordan as a sophomore to Wall as a Freshman is, but the kid was touted as a program changer and so far he's led his team to a SEC conference championship, a 32-2 record, all while averaging 17/6/4 and picking up SEC player of the year honours along the way (all as a damn freshman). Sorry you expected Jesus with a Ball, but most rational people just expected a great basketball player, which is what he is

Yes, I agree that he is an exceptional great basketball talent, with rare ability. ( Rajon Rondo is the also really rare)
I dont except Jesus. I didn't expect Michael Jordan. I did expect from what everybody said all the hype that he would be the next


and he is no where close, probably wont even be a top 3 PG a any point in the NBA.
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Wall is no Derrick Rose.
I am not even convinced he is better than Stephen Curry who is averaging 16/4/5 as a rookie


Totally agree. Wall is waaay overrated.

Can't shoot.... can't finish.... not nearly as athletic as he is made out to be.... and he has zero game in the half court set.

Evan Turner > John Wall

And Derrick Rose is far more explosive than Wall.
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