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Old 04-20-2010, 12:06 PM   #16
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Dwight needs to improve his post game in the off season if he wants to be the best player in the NBA.

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Default Re: Dwight's lack of post moves

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Yeah, he also knocked out 40 points in the deciding game of the ECF last year and averages around 20PPG, but go ahead and point out the 5 point game if it makes your d*ck hard.

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Dwight needs to improve his post game in the off season if he wants to be the best player in the NBA.

Mr. Obvious strikes again. Even with post moves, he'd still have a hard time being the best player in the league.

Why don't you go buy a brain? Let me continue your stupidity for you:

If Yao Ming wants to a force in the league, he has to stay healthy.
If the Lakers want to win the NBA title, they have to play basketball.
If Spider-Man wants to be a beloved super hero, he has to do super hero stuff.
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Yeah, he also knocked out 40 points in the deciding game of the ECF last year and averages around 20PPG, but go ahead and point out the 5 point game if it makes your d*ck hard.

Those 40 points he scored weren't because he showed his bag of tricks...he was just overpowering verajao and out athleticing Big Z. Howards lack of offensive moves will only come into plays against dudes he can't overpower or beast them with his athleticism. This is why he struggled vs the lakers but didn't against the cavs.
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He's got the hook, drop step hook with the left, and the start right and spin back left. Basically the exact same moves as Shaq.
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He's got the hook, drop step hook with the left, and the start right and spin back left. Basically the exact same moves as Shaq.

but you can actually keep dwight in check while noone could ever dream about keeping prime Shaq from beasting. I mean, c'mon, Dwight struggle againt Gasol of all people A month ago I saw jermain Oneil put the clamps on dwight by using length and athleticism.
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but you can actually keep dwight in check while noone could ever dream about keeping prime Shaq from beasting. I mean, c'mon, Dwight struggle againt Gasol of all people A month ago I saw jermain Oneil put the clamps on dwight by using length and athleticism.

Part of Dwight's hindered development can be blamed on the Magic's system. They occasionally forget about him.
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his best move is a travel. i dont really understand why he gets away with it.

when he fakes left and goes right and brushes his shoulder off the defender into a running 3-4 step hook.
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Mr. Obvious strikes again. Even with post moves, he'd still have a hard time being the best player in the league.

Why don't you go buy a brain? Let me continue your stupidity for you:

If Yao Ming wants to a force in the league, he has to stay healthy.
If the Lakers want to win the NBA title, they have to play basketball.
If Spider-Man wants to be a beloved super hero, he has to do super hero stuff.
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Default Re: Dwight's lack of post moves

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Those 40 points he scored weren't because he showed his bag of tricks...he was just overpowering verajao and out athleticing Big Z. Howards lack of offensive moves will only come into plays against dudes he can't overpower or beast them with his athleticism. This is why he struggled vs the lakers but didn't against the cavs.

Makes no difference why he got 40 points or why he averages 20, he still got 40 and averages 20. When will people wake the f*ck up and realize that Howard IS NOT AN OFFENSIVE MINDED PLAYER! He is a defensive force, but in this day and age, unless you average 25 PPG (which is only 5 PPG less than 'Mr. No Post Moves, BTW!), you are useless etc

People also seem to forget that he is on a team with Vince, Rashard, Jameer, Redick and any number of other scorers, if he played on the Nets he would probably average 50PPG
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Mr. Obvious strikes again. Even with post moves, he'd still have a hard time being the best player in the league.

Why don't you go buy a brain? Let me continue your stupidity for you:

If Yao Ming wants to a force in the league, he has to stay healthy.
If the Lakers want to win the NBA title, they have to play basketball.
If Spider-Man wants to be a beloved super hero, he has to do super hero stuff.
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but you can actually keep dwight in check while noone could ever dream about keeping prime Shaq from beasting. I mean, c'mon, Dwight struggle againt Gasol of all people A month ago I saw jermain Oneil put the clamps on dwight by using length and athleticism.

Let's not forget that Shaq is 4 inches taller and outweighed Dwight by 60 pounds... while being about as athletic. That's life though. Yes you can keep Howard in check, but as has been pointed out, he can dominate the game in other areas even when he isn't doing much offensively. You think Shaq still would have been playing balls out if he only had 4 points and limited post opportunities? That's what I like about Dwight.
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Old 04-20-2010, 02:26 PM   #29
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Dwight's offensive game looked better in the 2008-2009 season, that year he had improved noticeably from the previous year. Particularly in the playoffs, where his running hooks with both hands, jump hooks with both hands and the ocassional spin move were all working well, combined with the fact that he's always going to get points by getting offensive rebounds, running the floor for great post position and going up for lobs. But after the Cleveland series, the Lakers really focused on him and figured him out a bit.

But after looking like he really has regressed, Dwight's footwork looked better than it ever has starting around midseason. His passing has also gotten a lot better. But, he was showing those things last season, particularly vs Cleveland and Philadephia in the playoffs.

What I saw from Dwight that surprised me(although he stopped using it recently), was around midseason, he was actually taking(and making) a few bankshots. Granted, I never saw him make 2 in a row in a game, but he did see him step outside and make one, then on the next possession I saw him step outside and fake like he was going to shoot one and the defender went for it which allowed him to go to the basket.

If Dwight is more consistent with his current moves and his passing, plus he uses that bank shot once or twice a game, that's all he needs, other than staying out of foul trouble. Hell, David Robinson and Patrick Ewing did the same thing the majority of the time. Ewing would catch the ball in the post and shoot a running shot in the lane or a baseline turnaround while Robinson would catch the ball facing the basket and shoot a mid-range jumper or drive to the basket.
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He's got the hook, drop step hook with the left, and the start right and spin back left. Basically the exact same moves as Shaq.

Howard actually has a better left hand than Shaq, but Shaq was much better with spin moves and fakes, plus he had that one-handed jumper he liked to shoot as a baseline turnaround about 8-10 feet away as well as in the lane from about the same distance. Shaq's jump hook was also better and he used the glass better on those shots. Only minor things, but they make a huge different, particularly when you consider Shaq's size and strength advantage.
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