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Old 04-22-2010, 06:13 PM   #31
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Red carpet? Seriously? And we knock these guys for having a sense of entitlement.

Well, what did you expect? It's ESPN, and it's the first round, and it's been moved to primetime. As stupid as I think a red carpet is I'm not the least bit surprised.
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Old 04-22-2010, 06:26 PM   #32
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Didn't pretty much every QB have a 100% completion rate at their workouts? Pretty sure McCoy and Clausen did, I think Tebow was like 48/50 or something.

Yes, which is why I can't figure out why prime keeps on bringing up workouts. Like snoop said, those workouts are in a controlled environment, and obviously with no defense. They were saying McCoy looked like a future stud coming out of his workout, same with Clausen.
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Key word: Workout
Bradford did well in passing DRILLS in a CONTROLLED environment...

The transition from spread QB to NFL QB is HUGE... see: Alex Smith
Clausen is ONE inch shorter than Bradford... oh no
Bradford put those stats up in a spread offense in a zero defense league with an offensive line that gave him years to throw. Out of the very small amount of times he got hit, he was knocked out with injury twice... injury prone/soft much?
Consensus scout opinions are often wrong as well - see: Reggie Bush
Clausen is tougher, has more grit
He was also brought up by Charlie Weis, who despite his futility as a Head Coach, is an offensive GURU
Due to his defense being a P.O.S. its extremely impressive how clutch and level headed Clausen was in bringing his team back to win/ close to catching up.. he is also more durable and has played through gameS with injuries
Finally, nearly every part of his college team SUCKed apart from Tate and Floyd, one of whom was almost always injured... his defense sucked, his line sucked, his RBs sucked... compared to Bradford's overstacked team, so you can hardly use college success as part of the grading scheme. The fact that Clausen had a 28-4 TD ratio is INSANE considering the level of his line... I doubt Bradford would've done the same in his circumstances, especially since he'd probably have been out with all the roughings he would've taken.

If Clausen falls all the way down to Minnesota, they will be guaranteed perennial contenders for a long time, while I wouldn't be surprised if Bradford is a bust/mediocre QB at best with that awful line he'll have at St. Louis
yeah there are busts at every single position through out the history of the draft...

they said the odds of a QB being select #1 overall is around 50/50 of him "making it"...

1970: Terry Bradshaw (Pittsburgh)
1971: Jim Plunkett (New England)
1975: Steve Bartkowski (Atlanta)
1983: John Elway (Baltimore)
1987: Vinny Testaverde (Tampa Bay)
1989: Troy Aikman (Dallas)
1990: Jeff George (Indianapolis)
1993: Drew Bledsoe (New England)
1998: Peyton Manning (Indianapolis)
1999: Tim Couch (Cleveland)
2001: Michael Vick (Atlanta)
2002: David Carr (Houston)
2003: Carson Palmer (Cincinnati)
2004: Eli Manning (San Diego)
2005: Alex Smith (San Francisco)
2007: JaMarcus Russell (Oakland)

^^^ those are all the QBs that were taken #1 overall in the draft....it is about 50/50 on being a legit starter

looking at the busts in that list, like Russell, and Vick, and George, I see alot of character flaws that Bradford doesn't have...

the busts without character flaws are Carr and Couch...and it is possible that Bradford could be another one of them...yes....but I think it is unlikely because he is just better than they are...lol

Clausen could go on to win 5 straight Super Bowls in the future....but as of right now no one in their right mind would take him over Sam...

no one in their right mind would even take him as he is now over Sam LAST YEAR...


I am done with this for now...only time will tell...if I am still around here in 3 years you can bet your asss I will be saying "TOLD YOU SO!"
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Brian Bulaga is a freakin monster, far and away the biggest guy on that panel
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did they just announce Drew Brees as the cover of Madden 11?

or was that like a joke thing?

I just caught the end...



Brees will get injured next year...he should know better
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DAMN...they just said that Holmgren and the Browns offered "most of this year's picks" for the #1 pick to the Rams so they could take Bradford...
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did they just announce Drew Brees as the cover of Madden 11?

or was that like a joke thing?

I just caught the end...



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Why do the Rams need all their time to make a pick they know already?

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DAMN...they just said that Holmgren and the Browns offered "most of this year's picks" for the #1 pick to the Rams so they could take Bradford...

*cough*BS*cough*
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classic bradford face when they put him up
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Why do the Rams need all their time to make a pick they know already?

*cough*BS*cough*
because the trade offers are really coming in...it isn't "BS"
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Bradford really screwed up coming back to school
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I hope Suh falls to us (Bucs) at 3. I doubt it but I am keeping my fingers crossed. While McCoy wouldn't be bad either, I like me some Suh.

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Bradford really screwed up coming back to school
$45-$50 million gaurenteed...
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$45-$50 million gaurenteed...
It was a joke. Stop being so defensive of Bradford.
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