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Old 04-29-2010, 11:14 PM   #496
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Lol at the mavs fans whining about the refs. Dude its over haha
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Old 04-29-2010, 11:15 PM   #497
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Old 04-29-2010, 11:19 PM   #498
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I think this is the upset of the playoff's - Mav's had the talent and IMO before the playoff's started should of gotten to the west conf championship if not to the title game.

Before the season , I thought if this happened , Dirk would get traded ,, but with all the trades Cuban did this year , he has to stick with this core roster.

If next year the Mav's exit the 1st or 2nd round , Dirk will be gone.
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Old 04-29-2010, 11:20 PM   #499
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Okay what players in Dirk' situation would have netted better results in this series? People like you always make me laugh because you act as though every chucklehead in the NBA goes around dropping his numbers.

You still can't get over the fact that Dirk's offensive production cannot win it all in the playoffs, not matter how much talent is around him, as long as he's #1. He could have the best numbers ever, and still lose because he's not the TYPE of player who can be asked to have four other players feed off of him. He can produce, but he cannot be the backbone of a championship team.

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Would the results have been different if it was D Wade

Would the results have been different if it was Melo

Would the results have been different if it was Dwight Howard

Would the results have been different if it was Amare Stoudamire


Dirk would need to be the #2 guy, preferably to a guy like Wade who can be a scoring threat and playmaker at the same time. Teams would have no answer if those two were paired up.
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Old 04-29-2010, 11:22 PM   #500
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We got screwed!
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Old 04-29-2010, 11:24 PM   #501
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only 5 rebounds for dirk
Jason Terry's fault. He's just not good enough
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Old 04-29-2010, 11:26 PM   #502
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You still can't get over the fact that Dirk's offensive production cannot win it all in the playoffs, not matter how much talent is around him, as long as he's #1. He could have the best numbers ever, and still lose because he's not the TYPE of player who can be asked to have four other players feed off of him. He can produce, but he cannot be the backbone of a championship team.




Dirk would need to be the #2 guy, preferably to a guy like Wade who can be a scoring threat and playmaker at the same time. Teams would have no answer if those two were paired up.


And here comes more BS from showtime. Again sir. Why have 28 of the last 30 NBA Champions had multiple hall of fame players? You are creating a standard for Dirk that does not exist. You have no legs to stand on again. It's pathetic.

If Dirk had Joe Johnson or Paul Pierce (both players clearly not as good as dirk) over the last 7 years the Mavs would have won at least 2 titles. Stop it already.
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Old 04-29-2010, 11:33 PM   #503
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And here comes more BS from showtime.

If it's such bullshit, then why has reality backed up my point? Enjoy the offseason.

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Again sir. Why have 28 of the last 30 NBA Champions had multiple hall of fame players? You are creating a standard for Dirk that does not exist. You have no legs to stand on again. It's pathetic.

Dirk could have Lebron playing beside him, but if they don't go through lebron, they will lose. Why is this so difficult for you to understand? Dirk could have all the talent in the world around him, but as long as he's the primary guy, they will lose in the playoffs. Dirk needs to be in the AJ/Shaq role to Lebron instead of Lebron playing the AJ role for Dirk.

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If Dirk had Joe Johnson or Paul Pierce (both players clearly not as good as dirk) over the last 7 years the Mavs would have won at least 2 titles. Stop it already.
If they ran the offense through those guys, possibly. If they go through Dirk instead of having Dirk be a complimentary player, then they lose.
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Old 04-29-2010, 11:40 PM   #504
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If it's such bullshit, then why has reality backed up my point? Enjoy the offseason.



Dirk could have Lebron playing beside him, but if they don't go through lebron, they will lose. Why is this so difficult for you to understand? Dirk could have all the talent in the world around him, but as long as he's the primary guy, they will lose in the playoffs. Dirk needs to be in the AJ/Shaq role to Lebron instead of Lebron playing the AJ role for Dirk.


If they ran the offense through those guys, possibly. If they go through Dirk instead of having Dirk be a complimentary player, then they lose.


Actually.....sir. History is on my side.....considering the fact that you need at least 2 great players to win a title. You seem to not respond to this FACT.

You also don't understand basketball. What Dirk actually needs is a center that can protect the rim and anchor the defense and a 2 guard that can create and score on offense. Considering nobody in the league can remotely stop Dirk one on one.....he also could use some knockdown shooters other than guards. Running the offense through a player as efficient as Dirk is smart. He passes well out of doubles and scores more efficiently than just about everyone in the league.

The way the Mavs have built around Dirk would be similar to the Cavs not surrounding Lebron with good shooters to stretch the floor.

AGAIN. History is not on your side because Dirk has never played with another legit star capable of helping a team win a title. Nor has he played for a great coach capable of making the adjustments and decisions necessary to win a title. Do you beg to differ?
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Old 04-29-2010, 11:44 PM   #505
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i just heard on nbatv there was a trade kobe for dirk str8 up and it was rejected wtf?
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Old 04-29-2010, 11:49 PM   #506
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Actually.....sir. History is on my side.....considering the fact that you need at least 2 great players to win a title. You seem to not respond to this FACT.

I have already proved that to be false. There may not be a lot of exceptions, but there are exceptions, and you even admitted that Dirk had a team good enough to win it the year he lost in the finals, so please stop trying to argue this point which is moot.

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You also don't understand basketball. What Dirk actually needs is a center that can protect the rim and anchor the defense and a 2 guard that can create and score on offense. Considering nobody in the league can remotely stop Dirk one on one.....he also could use some knockdown shooters other than guards. Running the offense through a player as efficient as Dirk is smart. He passes well out of doubles and scores more efficiently than just about everyone in the league.

LMAO this clown thinks John Salmons + Camby + Dirk = ring.

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The way the Mavs have built around Dirk would be similar to the Cavs not surrounding Lebron with good shooters to stretch the floor.

Dirk will never win with teams built on his shoulders.

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AGAIN. History is not on your side

Has Dirk ever won a ring with a team built around him? No.
Has Dirk ever had a team good enough to win a ring? Yes (even you admitted that).

So yes, history has backed up my point. If you want to have a team succeed in the regular season, then Dirk can elevate them there. But if you want a ring, he cannot be the main guy.
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Old 04-29-2010, 11:49 PM   #507
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Considering nobody in the league can remotely stop Dirk one on one.....

Nobody can "stop" Dirk Nowitkzi, obviously...

But did you watch this series???

Antonio McDyess' one on one coverage of Dirk deserves A TON of credit in this series. The guy is straight up battle tested. There weren't constant double teams on Dirk, McDyess played him physical and didn't bite on alot of his pump fakes... Making sure Nowitzki is doing nothing but taking contested jump shots, some of them fadeaways.
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Old 04-29-2010, 11:49 PM   #508
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Old 04-29-2010, 11:54 PM   #509
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Old 04-29-2010, 11:55 PM   #510
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even though he was making them, Dirk took too many jumpers instead of trying to creating havoc and trying to get to the line. Those funny looking fall aways off of the wrong foot just aint cutting it
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