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Old 04-29-2010, 01:39 AM   #91
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Default Re: Brandon Jennings is ROTY

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Rookies competing for ROTY can be compared to All-stars competing for MVP.

They didn't need a fluke. They were just consistently better and that's what matters.

Actually no...It is well known that the competition for MVP is always stronger than competition for ROTY. Only 1st year players can compete for ROTY but any player is eligible to compete for MVP. You always see 4-5 guys that have a legit chance to win an MVP (not so much nowadays because Lebron is too dominating). ROY is most of the time a race between 2 guys.
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Old 04-29-2010, 01:40 AM   #92
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Actually no...It is well known that the competition for MVP is always stronger than competition for ROTY. Only 1st year players can compete for ROTY but any player is eligible to compete for MVP. You always see 4-5 guys that have a legit chance to win an MVP (not so much nowadays because Lebron is too dominating). ROY is most of the time a race between 2 guys.
Still, there is always an amount of players competing for ROTY and an amount for MVP. It's equal.
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Old 04-29-2010, 01:41 AM   #93
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John Salmons says hi.

He is the best scorer on the team but definately not the leader. Jennings is the one that sets his teammates and calls the plays. Salmons is simply the one that puts the ball in the basket. He isnt a vocal leader at all.
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Old 04-29-2010, 01:44 AM   #94
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Still, there is always an amount of players competing for ROTY and an amount for MVP. It's equal.

Its not equal. The amount of players competing for ROY is limited to about 60 players (i dont know how many rookies there is playing in the NBA) while MVP isnt.
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Old 04-29-2010, 09:07 AM   #95
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John Salmons says hi.

Salmons MIGHT be the #3 leader on the team, but I'd argue against that.

Bogut
Jennings
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Are the Bucks "leaders" at the moment, in that order.
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Old 04-29-2010, 09:12 AM   #96
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Default Re: Brandon Jennings won't win but deserves to be Rookie of Year

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lol but Kidd is a pure PG, while Jennings is a scoring first PG, which is the problem.

lolololololololol

Someone didn't watch Jennings past the first month of the season. While he isn't a "pure" point guard, he is usually looking to set his teammates up before setting up for his own shot.

And before anybody resorts to the shallow apg stat, you would also have to take into consideration how Skiles runs his offense, i.e. LOTS of ball movement. This is one of the reasons Bogut also doesn't have high assists numbers despite being an excellent passing center.
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Old 04-29-2010, 09:38 AM   #97
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Default Re: Brandon Jennings is ROTY

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Why can't you grasp my point? I'm not saying he doesn't deserve any credit. I'm saying his performance does not mean he automatically deserves the ROY award, which was the comment to which I responded.

There's a difference in giving a guy some credit, and giving him all the credit.

Naaah, you have said many times or implied that he isn't in the same class as the other two guys. That it's outlandish to believe he's the best rookie, and it's not. Until you admit that (which you never will), I am going to disagree with you.

At least you are starting to see that he's not some shot jacking scrub.

To the person who said BJ is a scoring pg... he's not really. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, he's not really used to the NBA style and he tries to find his shot early for the stretch run. He wont have to worry so much about finding his shot once he gets a little more experience. He will be able to just play his game and shoot with confidence.

The Bucks have a good squad, for sure, and Ridnour can be a better player than JEnnings if he's wetting or if Jennings is totally off (because he does lose his confidence when he starts going like 3-15), but I like the way the Bucks play with Jennings a lot.

I just think he needs more respect... he is, at worse, comparable to the other two 'elite guards'... that is you consider Curry elite at this point. Anyone who doesn't see that is just a hater.

And he will probably never shoot under 40% again.

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Default Rookie of the year being announced live in 1 hour

http://www.nba.com/playoffs2010/index.html

Guess it will be Tyreke

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Default Re: Rookie of the year being announced live in 1 hour

So if Jennings loses(it's probably going to happen) Friday will be stage for his revenge game and it will be a chance to advance. We will see how can the young buck really perform. Would be so great if a rookie dropped 50 in a close-out-revenge-for-not-winning-ROY game.
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Default Re: Rookie of the year being announced live in 1 hour

its to tyreke...
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So if Jennings loses(it's probably going to happen) Friday will be stage for his revenge game and it will be a chance to advance. We will see how can the young buck really perform. Would be so great if a rookie dropped 50 in a close-out-revenge-for-not-winning-ROY game.
The award is for 82 games of the regular season. It's not about who will be better in the future, who might have the better career, or who happened to be on a playoff team.
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So if Jennings loses(it's probably going to happen) Friday will be stage for his revenge game and it will be a chance to advance. We will see how can the young buck really perform. Would be so great if a rookie dropped 50 in a close-out-revenge-for-not-winning-ROY game.
Cause we all know scoring 50 is easy.
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Old 04-29-2010, 03:52 PM   #103
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Well deserved to Evans. He was the best overall rookie during the season.
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Old 04-29-2010, 03:55 PM   #104
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The award is for 82 games of the regular season. It's not about who will be better in the future, who might have the better career, or who happened to be on a playoff team.
no fcking sh!t...
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Old 04-29-2010, 03:57 PM   #105
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Default Tyreke Evans wins Rookie of Year

As expected.

Evans received 67 first-place votes (491 points) from a panel of 123 sportswriters and broadcasters throughout the United States and Canada. Golden State’s Stephen Curry finished second with 391 points and Milwaukee’s Brandon Jennings finished third with 204 points. Players were awarded five points for each first-place vote, three points for each second-place vote and one point for each third-place vote.

Full voting results here:

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