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Old 05-14-2010, 01:16 AM   #61
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Default Re: Analysis on why LeBron/Cavaliers lost to Celtics in 2010 round 2

The Cavs remind me of Phoenix a few years ago but for completely different reasons.

Dealing with their style and coming up against a freak like LeBron in the regular season for one game can catch you off guard, and they are different to most other teams.

However, over a seven game series you can game plan for them and expose a lot of their weaknesses. Teams have time to adjust to their style and find ways to cope with LeBron or shut down the rest of the team.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:18 AM   #62
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Lebron simply quit on his team game 5 and 6.

He has a history of giving up when faced with adversity on the court. When things are going easy he is dancing on the sidelines and doing pregame photoshoots. When things get hard-he gets serious, loses his jumpshot, and quits.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:19 AM   #63
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here' my take... the cavs play at such a high level all season long they don't have another gear to shift into when the playoffs come so we are surprised when they fall short... what you see in the regular season with the cavs is what you'll get in the playoffs..

where say the spurs traditionaly over the years are a team that ramps up for the playoffs, games are lost because pops let them lose games as a learning experience or because the effort to win a certain game would be fruitless.. why kill yourself to win a game that in the grand scheme really doesn't matter, just make the playoffs, make sure everyone is ready to go and on the same page..

to me some of this is the fault of coach brown for micro managing the team during the regular season and using lebron as a bail out to win every game possible...
then when they run into a buzz saw in the playoffs as we have now seen 3 years in a row the team has no clue what to do, who to turn to..

normally that would be lebron, but he's not that guy for whatever reason.. more often than not he has fallen short in the playoffs sooner or later, and tonight i kinda got the, "here we go again feeling" from lebron. like he himself knows that he's not that guy...
after game 5 i really expected more from lebron in this game, i expected to see him go down in a blaze of glory and leave it all on the court

tonight he put up good numbers but were they the type of numbers that impact a game? game 6 was obviously better for lebron but still i didn't see him grab this game by the neck and try and throttle the celtics into submission... he seemed more concerned with making sure he had good numbers to silence the doubters after the game 5 debacle than making sure there was a game 7


If the best player in the world isn't that guy..who is ? Lebron was playing with torn ligament in Elbow and a supporting cast disappeared once again.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:21 AM   #64
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THE cavs Can't SHOOT, Other than Lebron and Mo no one could hit a J and pull the D away from Bron Bron. Just like last year quitters.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:25 AM   #65
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If the best player in the world isn't that guy..who is ? Lebron was playing with torn ligament in Elbow and a supporting cast disappeared once again.
torn ligament now? please stop...lol

as for best player in the world? that remains to be seen, certainly the most skilled player in the world but that doesn't equal being the best

JtotheIzzo, great analogy...
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:36 AM   #66
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torn ligament now? please stop...lol

as for best player in the world? that remains to be seen, certainly the most skilled player in the world but that doesn't equal being the best

JtotheIzzo, great analogy...

Depends what you mean by skills. One obvious thing is that he can't post up or will not. He needs to work on that. His shot selection has improved and his jumper, but he still needs to improve on a couple of things.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:40 AM   #67
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torn ligament now? please stop...lol

as for best player in the world? that remains to be seen, certainly the most skilled player in the world but that doesn't equal being the best

JtotheIzzo, great analogy...


U may hear something in a Day or Two Definitely more than a Bruise though..
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:41 AM   #68
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U may hear something in a Day or Two Definitely more than a Bruise though..

Only thing Lebron bruised in this series was his ego.
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THE cavs Can't SHOOT, Other than Lebron and Mo no one could hit a J and pull the D away from Bron Bron. Just like last year quitters.

LeBron couldn't shot J's either in the series except for Game 3.
Most of his FG's were made right inside paint.

He needs to be criticized for his poor perimeter game as much as Rondo's poor shooting skills. Seems like Skip Bayless is the only media guy who has enough balls to call LBJ out on his poor perimeter game.
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I also wrote on Cleveland Message Board at the End of Regular season that Coasting and playing like its Preseason with Sitting Starters ect..instead of Working on Rotations and Getting Timing Down with Shaq and Jamison Ect would come back to bite them and it Did.. Cavs had a regular Season mentality in Playoffs and u could Even see it coming in CHi Series.
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Default Re: Analysis on why LeBron/Cavaliers lost to Celtics in 2010 round 2

What an EPIC disappointment from this team.

2 years in a row of winning 60+ games only to see playoff ineptitude and get bounced before even reaching the Conference Finals?

If you ask me thats pathetic.
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Depends what you mean by skills. One obvious thing is that he can't post up or will not. He needs to work on that. His shot selection has improved and his jumper, but he still needs to improve on a couple of things.
sure he does he is still young, and if he wants it bad enough he'll develop those things, but still there is no player in the league that has the combination of size speed elevation that lebron does and he can handle the ball... a very rare player indeed

what lebron really needs to work on is in his head... he needs to become a student of the game... he seems like he could really use a mentor, an aging vet that refuses to lose type player, somebody who will challenge him to do the right thngs at the right time... i don't know how to say it so if this comes out wrong forgive me, but he looks like his plan for the playoffs is just be "the king" do what i do and it should be enough..

but in the playoffs it's different, you have to hate the other team, you have to want to see them bleed you have to want to see them reduced to wimpering idgits because you demoralized them...

behind magic johnsons smile was an assasin, behind mj's glare was hatred bird made you his enemy etc etc...
lebron i just get the feeling he expects awe to take place because he's the chosen one, not because he because he actually strikes fear into them.. but that's just my view and it's certainly something that will develop when he wants it bad enough
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The Cavs remind me of Phoenix a few years ago but for completely different reasons.

Dealing with their style and coming up against a freak like LeBron in the regular season for one game can catch you off guard, and they are different to most other teams.

However, over a seven game series you can game plan for them and expose a lot of their weaknesses. Teams have time to adjust to their style and find ways to cope with LeBron or shut down the rest of the team.

they are totally the SUNS of the east. great regular season, fizzle in the playoffs. when team have time to game plan, they can stop these gimmick offenses. well, at least lebron has been to the finals where as nash hasn't.
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Old 05-14-2010, 02:13 AM   #74
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Lebron is a quitter. End of. It's all good when you're putting up great numbers against NJ and Minesota in the regular season but come the crunch time, Lebron usually goes missing. Next person to put this joker in the same sentence as a certain KB should be banned from this board forever.
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Lebron simply quit on his team game 5 and 6.

He has a history of giving up when faced with adversity on the court. When things are going easy he is dancing on the sidelines and doing pregame photoshoots. When things get hard-he gets serious, loses his jumpshot, and quits.
Why did he drop 40+ on the celtics in gm 7 in 08 and avged 35+ on the magic last year?? Wats this history you speak of?
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