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Old 06-19-2006, 05:09 PM   #61
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dont forget AI Avg about 37 pts in the 01 finals and the best play was the walk over LUE

He also shot 40% and LOST in 5 games!
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:23 PM   #62
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He also shot 40% and LOST in 5 games!

Shaq was unstoppable that year.. He was gettin something like 40 & 20 in that series...

I cant be mad at AI for that
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:24 PM   #63
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Shaq was unstoppable that year.. He was gettin something like 40 & 20 in that series...

I cant be mad at AI for that

True but if you lose that badly, I dunno if you get to have your series praised.
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:26 PM   #64
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Best Finals performance in a half decade
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:26 PM   #65
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Jordan averaged 32.3/7.0/6.0 on 45.7% shooting in the 1997 Finals, and was just as, if not more clutch, and played a lot better defense, too. That's better than 34.4/7.4/3.6 on similar shooting.
If MJ has the edge, it's a small edge. I do wonder why Wade doesn't guard Jason Terry more often though, he'd do it better than anyone else on Miami and Jet's hurting them.
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Old 08-31-2006, 04:21 PM   #66
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no guard is up there with shaq. but is unfair to compare wade, MJ or even kobe to shaq.

shaq is inhumanly strong and for a guy his size he is (was in his prime) lightning quick. being a center also makes him a terrific rebounder/shot blocker and intimidator which a guard cant be.

name other player not named shaq or wilt who can proclaim himself as the MDE.

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Old 09-23-2006, 08:53 PM   #67
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Kobe's playoff averages during the threepeat. Just awful, and he didn't hit any game winners or clutch shots either.

2000 - 21.1/4.5/4.4
2001 - 29.4/7.3/6.1
2002 - 26.6/5.8/4.6

as good as those numbers look they cant be compared to shaq, especially when you consider shaq's FG60%.

kobe played off the double teams other teams used on shaq, shaq had to score against double teams.
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Old 09-24-2006, 01:51 AM   #68
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please do not compare dwayne wade to MJ. if the game was being called like it is now when MJ was playing he would have averaged 45+ ppg. dwayne wade scores around half of his point from the foul line.
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no one compared wade and MJ, people were saying that this was the best performance for a guard since MJ's 41 points per game against phoenix in 1993 and i dont agree with that, MJ played better than wade in 1997 and 1998 but after MJ retired no guard had played like wade did.
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Old 09-25-2006, 01:15 AM   #70
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i dont know... i feel liek alot of the new great performances have a lot to do with how the game is being called. i mean, how many of those points are scored from the FT line? back in the day wade would have been stopped from getting to the rim all the time. if you look at his shooting percentages he is below average from everywhere except in the paint.
talking playoff performances last year, i might go as far as to say that LBJ's performance against detroit was better than wade. wade had shaq to force the double teams and all the shooters around him....LBJ didnt have nearly the level of help Wade had.
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Old 09-25-2006, 02:36 AM   #71
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shaq is a shadow of himself, the "he has shaq" excuse hardly has any meaning at this point of shaq's career.
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Old 09-25-2006, 01:37 PM   #72
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Jordan's '97 Finals were at the very least comparable statistically (32.3 pts/7.0 reb/6.0 ast), and he had two game-winners (game 1 and the 3 to put the Jazz away at the end in game 5) and a game-winning assist in that series alone, so that puts him over the top of Wade's performance imo. Just that one series provided us with many signature moments: the game-winner over Russell; the entire flu game including the dagger 3; and the pass to Kerr to ice it in game 6.
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Old 10-21-2006, 11:19 AM   #73
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keep in mind that, not only is the perimeter scoring being improved, so is the defense... the defensive quickness etc is so much better nowadays...

so wade is still the man~
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the only difference in defensive quickness I can see is in new-age big men who can guard the perimeter.

wade would not perform anywhere near how he did with the same defensive pressure that bird, magic johnson, and jordan had to deal with. keep in mind how many of his points came from the FT line compared to the old stars. A lot more.

wade is good at dribble penetration but hes a poor shooter.
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