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Old 06-04-2006, 01:46 PM   #31
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i wouldn't mind kenyon martin but i dont think him and francis will get along, send francis in a deal, and yeah i can't wait until everyones freakin contract expires so we can start fresh and by the time there contracts expire frye will be an allstar
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Old 06-04-2006, 01:48 PM   #32
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The knicks need post defenders for sure, martin plays defense wayyyyyyyyy better than mo-taylor anyday of the week.

I'm not saying Martin won't upgrade the Knicks, just that they might only win up to only five more games than they did this season, but it'll still be a losing season with even more media coverage about bouts in the locker room.

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Francis already said he doesn't want Denver.
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Old 06-04-2006, 01:54 PM   #33
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it's not what francis wants it's what we need
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Old 06-04-2006, 01:59 PM   #34
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Any has been point gaurd/ combo gaurd available cause lord knows they need one.
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Old 06-04-2006, 02:12 PM   #35
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we have jamal crawford for now.

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Hello...MARDY COLLINS
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Old 06-04-2006, 02:45 PM   #36
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That's all the Knicks need more long bloated contracts....ugh....

Wasn't portland near the bottom of the league? You are trading for more blazers that don't help their team win?

And you want to take on KMart's five more years, huge contract, bad knee and bad attitude?

How many more overbloated mistakes can the Knicks make? It's way way way out of control?

The Knicks don't realize that in order to get good, you have to get bad first, REAL bad....which means clearing out salaries, having three or four bad years, collecting high draft picks and young not quite ready talent....then you get lucky with a draft pick or two and build towards a good team.

The Knicks keep making things worse and worse and worse. Team is destined to be bad to mediocre for next five years and nothing will change that.....so stop with the bad contracts for loser players....
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Speculation of Knicks chasing Sebastian telfair....
nuff said.
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Old 06-04-2006, 03:41 PM   #38
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The first trade makes sense. The majority of trades in the NBA are moving unwanted players for more unwanted players. Miles + Ratliff aren't exactly keys to Portland's future. They may be willing to take a shot at guys like Rose and James. And the cap space makes it all much more worth while.

The 2nd trade is a little more sketchy. I'm sure Denver would like to move K-Mart, but why would they want Taylor? They'll probably get a better offer from another team. The 29th pick isn't exciting enough to make the deal worth while. Would even the Knicks do it?

Is Isiah coaching the team next year? And people thought Brown was bad. The Marbury, Francis, Crawford combo sounds bad. Neither Francis nor Marbury are good at the 2. Marbury is a much better point than Francis. I don't like Crawford's game, but he's good at times. Is Francis or Crawford the 6th man? Crawford at SF is pretty undersized.
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Old 06-04-2006, 03:42 PM   #39
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Speculation of Knicks chasing Sebastian telfair....
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Why would Portland trade him for anybody on the Knicks?
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The first trade makes sense. The majority of trades in the NBA are moving unwanted players for more unwanted players. Miles + Ratliff aren't exactly keys to Portland's future. They may be willing to take a shot at guys like Rose and James. And the cap space makes it all much more worth while.

The 2nd trade is a little more sketchy. I'm sure Denver would like to move K-Mart, but why would they want Taylor? They'll probably get a better offer from another team. The 29th pick isn't exciting enough to make the deal worth while. Would even the Knicks do it?

Is Isiah coaching the team next year? And people thought Brown was bad. The Marbury, Francis, Crawford combo sounds bad. Neither Francis nor Marbury are good at the 2. Marbury is a much better point than Francis. I don't like Crawford's game, but he's good at times. Is Francis or Crawford the 6th man? Crawford at SF is pretty undersized.

The reason why denver takes MoTaylor is because his contract is up after the upcoming season.

Kenyon is owed about 72 millions for about 5 yrs.
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No, you don't understand. If he doesn't report then Denver doesn't want to do this trade therefore I bet they're very unlikely to pull the trigger.
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id say the knicks, knowing isaiah, will end up with this lineup next year

PG- Steve Francis
SG- Bonzi Wells (signed to the max by Isiah)
SF- Brian Cardinal
PF- Zach Randolph
C- Adonal Foyle

aka team overpaid The New York Overpaid(s)
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Francis didn't like NY and he reported, did you know he once got his chained robbed in harlem and told the cops this is why I would never play in NY.

Well he reported !
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Trade

Francis

For

Eddie Jones

Jamal Crawford
Malik Rose

For

Grant Hill

Then try to send Marbury or Francis to Minny and get experir using a 3rd team.

Maybe

New York Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Stephon Marbury

Incoming
Jamaal Magloire
Joe Smith



Minnesota Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Mark Blount
Troy Hudson
Mark Madsen

Incoming
Stephon Marbury



Milwaukee Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Jamaal Magloire
Joe Smith

Incoming
Mark Blount
Troy Hudson
Mark Madsen

Next yr

Robinson / Draft or FA
Q Rich / Eddie Jones
Hill / Draft or FA (MLE)
Frye / Lee / Smith
Curry / Magloire / James

That would leave the Knicks with (after next season)

Eddy Curry
Q Rich
Jerome James
Frye
Nate Robinson
David Lee
Plus the 20th and 29th Pick

Not a good team but at least the would be young and cheap. Cap room in the 'O7 Free Agent Market.

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With Hudson as your starting point guard, don't expect more than 25 wins.
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