Lol I'm a fanboy cause I don't consider Rubio a bust? Cool story.
And I was saying that because Rubio won't leave a winning international franchise to go to a small market losing franchise like the T-Wolves he's a bust?
Is that your logic?
No, but that means that he could create some chemsitry problems with the team. Would you want that? I wouldn't, Ialready dealt with that when Shaq was here and with Kobe 4 years ago. One is bitching about which franchise he plays on, the other just wants to play in the NBA already. Give me one that wants to play in the NBA, isn't bitching, and isn't playing in some other puss league.
No, but that means that he could create some chemsitry problems with the team. Would you want that? I wouldn't, Ialready dealt with that when Shaq was here and with Kobe 4 years ago. One is bitching about which franchise he plays on, the other just wants to play in the NBA already. Give me one that wants to play in the NBA, isn't bitching, and isn't playing in some other puss league.
So lets use a hypothetical scenario.
If Wall came out of High school went into college and had the opportunity to join the Nba but instead decided to stay for a couple more years and gain more experience would he be considered a bust because he's playing in a leauge that puss compared to the Nba?
If Wall came out of High school went into college and had the opportunity to join the Nba but instead decided to stay for a couple more years and gain more experience would he be considered a bust because he's playing in a leauge that puss compared to the Nba?
Wall couldn't get drafted then go back to college though.
Rubio's words and actions make him seem less than confident and arrogant.
My only problem with Rubio is that you can't pick and choose who you want to play for in the NBA. I have no problem with him choosing to stay in Europe and play for a winning team over there rather than the f*cking T'Wolves. However, if he wants to play in this league anytime soon, he's going to have to bite the bullet and play for whatever team wants him. If he can't deal with that, then he may aswell just stay in Europe.
Wall couldn't get drafted then go back to college though.
Rubio's words and actions make him seem less than confident and arrogant.
So then how about this? If they switched places and Rubio was leaving this year and didn't have the option of going back . And Wall was drafted last year and decided to go back and get 2 more years experience.
Would that suddenly make Wall a bust?
My point is? Just because you don't like a players actions dosen't mean you can suddenly deny that he's talented as hell
My only problem with Rubio is that you can't pick and choose who you want to play for in the NBA. I have no problem with him choosing to stay in Europe and play for a winning team over there rather than the f*cking T'Wolves. However, if he wants to play in this league anytime soon, he's going to have to bite the bullet and play for whatever team wants him. If he can't deal with that, then he may aswell just stay in Europe.
I actually didn't understand his decision at all because I thought Rubio-Jefferson
Would be a perfect situation for him to come into.
If Wall came out of High school went into college and had the opportunity to join the Nba but instead decided to stay for a couple more years and gain more experience would he be considered a bust because he's playing in a leauge that puss compared to the Nba?
For starters, College isn't a puss league compared to the NBA. Secondly, no that wouldn't change anybody's opinion on Wall. Rubio got drafted AND then decided to go back, Wall does not have that option like Rubio did. If Wall decided to not enter the NBA Draft and just stay in College for a couple of more years, he would be taking the same trail as Magic Johnson took. Stay to win an NCAA Championship, not stay because he doesn't want to play for some bad team in the NBA like Wubio.
I think both will fall a bit short of the expectations thrown on them. In case of Rubio I think the difference between what is expected and what actually happens will be greater.
For starters, College isn't a puss league compared to the NBA. Secondly, no that wouldn't change anybody's opinion on Wall. Rubio got drafted AND then decided to go back, Wall does not have that option like Rubio did. If Wall decided to not enter the NBA Draft and just stay in College for a couple of more years, he would be taking the same trail as Magic Johnson took. Stay to win an NCAA Championship, not stay because he doesn't want to play for some bad team in the NBA like Wubio.
So are you claiming the level of competition in college is better then the competition overseas
Cause if that's your logic I think this convo is done.
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I think the big difference is that wall has bonifide star Rubio is a project
Based in what his performance in college? So basically once you're a star in college you can't be a bust? Do I really have to name you a list of stars in college that were bust in the Nba?
Wall couldn't get drafted then go back to college though.
Rubio's words and actions make him seem less than confident and arrogant.
I just don't get how whenever people talk about Rubio it always comes down to how Euro-ball sucks and he's somehow done Minnesotta some great wrong. His words and actions re: draft make him seem like he doesn't want to leave sunny Spain for shitty Minnesotta to play on a sucky team that has sucked forever in a country where he has to speak a second language and adjust to a new culture (the Midwest vs. Spain really?) away from his family and coaches at the age of 18 making NBA rookie salary.
Putting his name in the draft means he is committing himself to having his draft rights assigned to a team that selects him, it doesn't mean he has to sign with any team. He's fulfilled his obligation as far as I can tell, and now he's negotiating a better life for himself like everyone would. Minnesotta front office just made a really bad decision to draft him knowing he would never sign with them, because Minnesotta front office is just not very good at making solid decisions.
Re: Rubio's competition vs Wall's, considering how many busts there have been in the NBA who were stars in college or international game, I don't think it matters where they played. I hope they both bring something new to the NBA so it sucks less.
Based in what his performance in college? So basically once you're a star in college you can't be a bust? Do I really have to name you a list of stars in college that were bust in the Nba?
He wasn't just a star he was a Super Star elite player how many super star players were bust in the NBA name me a list
Lol I'm a fanboy cause I don't consider Rubio a bust? Cool story.
And I was saying that because Rubio won't leave a winning international franchise to go to a small market losing franchise like the T-Wolves he's a bust?
Is that your logic?
You defend Rubio on ever message board that involves him. People keep saying what have you seen that makes you think he will be a bust but my question is what have you seen that makes you think he will be an elite pg? Look at his numbers and if your not a numbers guy than look at how weak he is around the basketball and how bad of a jump shooter he is...
Re: John Wall vs. Ricky Rubio
