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Old 05-06-2012, 09:09 AM   #16
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I always thought that Longley was underrated. He was a skilled big man, with an adequate offensive game, including a nice short- to mid-range jumper. He also ran the floor well.

Defensively, he altered some shots and clogged up the lane.

Suffice it to say that he would be in the upper-echelon of big men if he were playing today.


You should have stopped while you were ahead.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:36 AM   #17
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You should have stopped while you were ahead.
Longley was a mobile big man who ran the floor well. Maybe you should watch some of his games -- that is if you can use your mom's computer for that long.
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jordan's starting center.

enough said.
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:15 AM   #19
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Longley was a mobile big man who ran the floor well. Maybe you should watch some of his games -- that is if you can use your mom's computer for that long.
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:59 AM   #20
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Longley was a mobile big man who ran the floor well. Maybe you should watch some of his games -- that is if you can use your mom's computer for that long.
Let's make a bet. I'm sure no respected ISH or Bulls poster would agree with you. Luc was slow as shit.
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:14 AM   #21
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Let's make a bet. I'm sure no respected ISH or Bulls poster would agree with you. Luc was slow as shit.
i'm with gogetter.
i've never seen luc longley finish a break.
why would he? he was playing with the best open court players of the time.
gogetter is still a jerk tho.
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Old 05-06-2012, 01:47 PM   #22
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Longley was a solid center. And perfect for the bulls. He has a wet mis range jumper, was nifty in the post and a good man defender. In todays league, hed be top 10.
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Old 05-06-2012, 01:51 PM   #23
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Longley was a solid center. And perfect for the bulls. He has a wet mis range jumper, was nifty in the post and a good man defender. In todays league, hed be top 10.
When he was playing, he was probably top 20, out of 19 teams?

I can't even remember some teams starting center from the mid 90s?

Dallas?
New Jersey?
Clippers?
T-Wolves?
Sacramento?
Warriors?
Cleveland?
Phoenix?
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Nothing special. He would be a 9th/10th man on some teams today. He had a nice jumper, but for a man his size he wasn't a good rebounder, he had trouble finishing inside, and he was flat footed. LOL @ the previous poster who said he ran the floor well.
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Old 05-06-2012, 02:04 PM   #25
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Longley was a solid center. And perfect for the bulls. He has a wet mis range jumper, was nifty in the post and a good man defender. In todays league, hed be top 10.

top 10? i doubt it.

dwight
bynum
tyson
marc
tim
kg
jefferson
hibbert
kaman
bogut

that's ten already
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top 10? i doubt it.

dwight
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that's ten already

He's biased, give him a break.
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Old 05-06-2012, 02:36 PM   #27
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Centers today better than Longley

dwight
bynum
tyson
marc
tim
kg
jefferson
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noah
b. lopez (injured this season)
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d. jordan
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monroe (very underrated)
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Longley wouldn't even be top 20 in today's league, and let's be real, if he didn't play for Chicago nobody would even know who he was.
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Old 05-06-2012, 02:50 PM   #28
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Let's make a bet. I'm sure no respected ISH or Bulls poster would agree with you. Luc was slow as shit.
This is why I dislike debating things that happened 20 years ago with someone who was probably born yesterday.

What I meant about Longley, if it wasn't clear, is that he ran the floor well for someone of his height and size. I did not say he was the freaking flash, or that he had elite-level speed.

If you're comparing him to other Bulls centers of his era, I would say that he was more mobile than either Cartwright or Wennington. Both of them, I would consider flatfooted and slow.

I have a bunch of old Bulls games, and have noted more then once that Longely was much quicker and more mobile than people give him credit for. Obviously, some posters here think he was some kind of stiff, but I don't agree.

Watch some old Bulls games, or look at some YouTube clips. You might be surprised.
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Old 05-06-2012, 03:01 PM   #29
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I have a bunch of old Bulls games, and have noted more then once that Longely was much quicker and more mobile than people give him credit for. Obviously, some posters here think he was some kind of stiff, but I don't agree.

of course he was a stiff.
the prototypical stiff with a mid range shot. the only reason he started over wennington was because he was taller. wennington was a better shooter.
longley was uwe blab deluxe.
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It depends on how you look at it. I feel if longley plays today, against lesser quality centers as compared to what he had to compete against, his production would be much better. Id venture to guess his production per game would be around 13/8 with 2 blocks. Thats marc gasol type numbers.
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