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Old 07-28-2010, 04:57 PM   #61
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It's ONE article on SI. There are other pro Lebron articles too. Are you suggesting having ONE article being anti Lebron meants there is an ANTI lebron bias?

That's disingenuous. Your statement completely ignores the FLOOD of responses, none really positive to LeBron's move. I have read almost daily negative takes on LeBron's move to Miami, from Barkley's interview, to MJ's, to several journalists as well. No one likes the move -- except Bron hypers and Miami fans for reasons all know but I'll list a few, since I'm sure you'll require evidence. Here's the argument:

-Someone who names himself the King should not go to someone else's team to win a championship.

-You don't join someone who is on your level, you beat them to PROVE your greatness.

-Given his natural abilities, he misses the chance to surpass Jordan and shows he lacks that which made Jordan great.

-We as fans will never see LeBron's best because he will never have to push himself with those guys around.

-No team has ever really been so much better than the teams around him/no team has ever had the top two or two of the top three players in basketball at one time. It's inherently uncompetitive. [And for those against this argument, say using Kareem/Magic as a comparison, it was the pre-cap era, look at the teams they had to face -- the Celtics were loaded in an equal fashion. The Lakers don't approach that level, what gives them a shot is cohesiveness as a team.]

-Overall, as the Nets owner stated, he has limited his own brand, his appeal to people, at this point, and potentially negated it forever if Miami continues to be seen as DWade's team. DWade has even been DEFENDING LeBron from the get-go, showing exactly whose team it is.

So are you just limited, or trolling?

Point is, the response to LeBron is overwhelmingly negative atm. IF he does win several titles (as a few articles on SI and ESPN suggest) THEN he can negate the negative press and re-establish his legacy. BUT, atm, mostly he is just receiving swampfuls of hate.
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Old 07-28-2010, 05:06 PM   #62
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Not on SI based on that article, no. READ the article. It's a pretty normal viewpoint a normal non miami/lebron fan will have. Do people understand Lebron will not be rooted for as much as before? That's not bias, that's reality.

I read that article this morning. I never touched on that article specifically in my post.

I like Kobe more than Lebron. I am not a Heat Fan. And ya, I think most people will have a biased opinion of Lebron now that will allow them to stray from reality many times over this season....and ya, I think the hate he's garnering, and the Heat in general, is quite pathetic. Just my opinion.

I guess you're right, it is normal because the majority will feel that way. The norm is quite pathetic in this case.
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Old 07-28-2010, 05:22 PM   #63
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Yahoo's running with the story too now http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/bal...urn=nba-258818
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Old 07-28-2010, 05:34 PM   #64
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I have no problem with Bron's antics, he's a child and has proven such.

The problem is with ESPN pulling the story a la Bron pulling the jordan crawford footage....it's pointless and wreaks of unnecessary damage control
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Old 07-28-2010, 05:54 PM   #65
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Soundtrack: ESPN's Coverage Fit for a King
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Last night, ESPN reporter Arash Markazi posted a very lurid, detailed account of a night out with LeBron James on ESPN.com, replete with naked nightclub biddies, lots of alcohol, and Big Baby Davis walking by in disgust.

That's not the story.

The story is that ESPN pulled the whole post immediately. Now, as alternative sports media like Deadspin.com and Twitter are abuzz with this story, ESPN and all of its columnists and writers on Twitter are conspicuously silent.

Mind you, Markazi is a very reputable journalist, who has broken stories about USC recruiting violations, covered a few Stanley Cups, and profiled everyone from Wayne Gretzky to Ron Artest to Vince McMahon for Sports Illustrated. It’s possible he got the whole thing wrong. But it’s not probable.

So why did ESPN pull the plug on a story that could out LeBron as a terrible human being? The prevailing belief is that ESPN, which invested $7.6 billion on NBA television rights in 2007, is sacrificing its journalistic integrity to keep in good standing with its investment.

And as of mid-afternoon on Wednesday, ESPN has no comment.

Boston.com has the world’s best resource for anything involving journalistic ethics: Mark Leccese, the founder of the Globe’s Gatekeeper blog. He’s an ombudsman for those with a sense of humor or those in love with Adrian Beltre’s glovework. His last article, for example, is titled, "How to figure out who's really a journalist."

So, yes, he’s the perfect person to ask.

We presented him the article this afternoon, along with some questions. Here’s his reaction:

MARK: First of all: Wow. Not "wow" that James behaves badly (it's not that lurid actually, and I love the scene where Big Baby walks by, stops and look, and then walks away shaking his head). It's that ESPN pulled the thing.

Let me think about this. And I'd be delighted to do a rare dual-post -- but I want to start by asking a question you didn't ask and answering it.

BEN: Why do you think ESPN spiked this post by a reputable journalist it employs?

MARK: I don't know, of course, but if I had to guess, I'd say it was pulled by ESPN's lawyers. The column is a libel suit waiting to happen. The journalist reports that James drinks a lot of champagne and that he makes at least one crudely sexist remark. I am not saying the column is libelous, but it certainly invites a libel suit, and lawsuits are expensive.

BEN: If everything in this story is true (which is still an "if" at this point, yes), how does that affect ESPN's credibility as a news-gathering organization?

MARK: If everything in this story is factual, and ESPN still spiked it even though it is a first-hand account by one of its respected journalists, then ESPN's reputation as a news organization becomes a joke. This small incident show ESPN to be what most of us suspect it to be: an entertainment network that also reports scores and highlights.

BEN: If it becomes clear that they squelched a writer because it agitates the image of a league to which they own the $7.6 billion television rights, doesn't that throw them into the bought-access bin of Extra or Access Hollywood?

MARK: I wouldn't go so far as to call it a "bought access" network. It does report on sports organization with which it has no contract. I'd call it an entertainment network that doesn't want to do anything to anger the sports organizations -- and the stars -- that provide ESPN with its profitable entertainment.

But I'm not surprised. My friend, the late Jack Falla, a brilliant writer who spent years as the hockey correspondent for Sports Illustrated, once wrote a letter naming the 30 things Jack learned between the ages of 30 and 60. Number 19: "Sports broadcasters aren't journalists. They're Establishment."

BEN: What other reasons could they have for pulling this? The only other thing I could think of is this: They might be saving this for a slower news day, but it got posted anyway and spread like wildfire before they could contain it. That seems a little more ethically acceptable.

MARK: Fear of a libel suit from James. There is absolutely no chance ESPN was saving this for a slower news day. If you sit on a story, it gets flat. Other than fear of a libel suit, the only possible reasons to pull the story are 1) the editors don't trust the reporter (doubtful); and 2) to avoid offending James or the NBA.

BEN: Say you're an ESPN editor right now. You pulled this thing because you were told by an executive that you can't run it for the sake of your business relationship with the NBA and LeBron. How do you handle this? What is your public statement?

MARK: If you want to keep your job, you don't say anything. Maybe you gripe to the people you work with in a bar after work, but if you go public with it, you're fired.

BEN: This is a really big deal, isn't it? This one dumb, little thing on the Internet could really harm a major news organization. Isn't that fascinating?

MARK: Yup. It's a big deal. It exposes ESPN as a positive publicity machine for James and the NBA and damages its reputation as a news provider. It's not a little, dumb thing -- it is a manifestation of ESPN's corporate values.


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Old 07-28-2010, 05:55 PM   #66
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Old 07-28-2010, 05:59 PM   #67
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LeBron is on his way to becoming my favorite human of all time, and I don't even really like him. But, his progressing self-immolation is just too awesome for words.
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:28 PM   #68
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Kobe fans mad . They probably jerk off to these articles.

The big thing that everyone's missing is this guy Arash Markazi is a part of ESPN LOS ANGELES, yes that's right, LOS ANGELES. He is a Laker n*trider and just as bad as most of them here on ISH. Only difference is he gets paid to spew his garbage. I can see why ESPN pulled the article. It's a bunch of trash and has nothing to do with basketball. Just another punk Laker moron.
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:35 PM   #69
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The big thing that everyone's missing is this guy Arash Markazi is a part of ESPN LOS ANGELES, yes that's right, LOS ANGELES. He is a Laker n*trider and just as bad as most of them here on ISH. Only difference is he gets paid to spew his garbage. I can see why ESPN pulled the article. It's a bunch of trash and has nothing to do with basketball. Just another punk Laker moron.

Oh yeah, I'm well aware of Markazi. He was on CNN before moving to ESPN, and I don't recall him ever writing anything that didn't ride Kobe or LA's d!ck in some fashion.

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Old 07-28-2010, 08:36 PM   #70
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write this about a normal, everyday human being and the author is considered a stalker. but since it is Lebron it's ok to write down his every move and every word that is uttered out of his mouth.

kind of creepy to me
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He's always rolled like this ... only people he needs to worry about stabbing him is disgruntled Clevelanders.

I think you're underestimating all the crazy ass jealous people out there.
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Is this a shock to anyone? ESPN backs LeBron to the fullest. They are the network that aired "The Decision." If you want real news about LeBron, check out Yahoo! Sports and Adrian Wojnarowski.
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lol@ LeBron nut riders always madd at Kobe fans...

Your boy is getting killed by everyone....Jordan, Magic, Bird, Barkley exc....Not just Kobe fans...STFU, deal with it and stop using Kobe fans as your punkass outlet...Sit down you f*cking pusse's.
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write this about a normal, everyday human being and the author is considered a stalker. but since it is Lebron it's ok to write down his every move and every word that is uttered out of his mouth.

kind of creepy to me
err he's a reporter covering an event, an event he was covering for ESPN and was expensed by ESPN to cover, an event james was paid 6 fugures to host, an event with security who made sure everyone was credentialed...



this is not some stalker, it's a reporter doing his job.. he did it, and some people were obviously not happy about it....lol
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err he's a reporter covering an event, an event he was covering for ESPN and was expensed by ESPN to cover, an event james was paid 6 fugures to host, an event with security who made sure everyone was credentialed...



this is not some stalker, it's a reporter doing his job.. he did it, and some people were obviously not happy about it....lol

Markazi is actually a DC native and is a wizards fan (know this through mutual friends), but hey the Bron cult has him grouped him with the other "haters" aka the rest of america.
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