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Old 08-05-2010, 02:57 AM   #1
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Me.

I'm a movie fanatic; all genres from all ages. This is not going to be a topic about simply naming movies, this is a thread about promulgating the most intriguing movies I have seen in my lifetime. For each movie I will deliberate my assessment (flaws, acting, dialogue, plot, flow, picture, music, camera work etc.), explain the plot and grade the overall movie. The movies will flow in a descending order.

I would say there are a lot more movies from the last four decades that will appear on this list mainly because of my age and preference. I'm not looking for criticism, I'm looking to exhibit movies that some of you have yet to see but should. There will be movies that you don't like or will disagree on the rating I give them but in the grand scheme of things I'm sure each of you will find at least a dozen movies you will want to see that you have not yet seen. The reason I'm going to take my time with this project is because I want to fragment each movie and explain to you why it's worth watching.

This will take some time but just bare with me. I'm sure I'll create some controversy that will spark some pretty insightful debates.

I'll start this later this week probably, by rating the first ten or so movies.

Food for thought; why do people find Fight Club so gratifying? It definitely lacks from an entertainment perspective, sure it has a great cast but the movie fails to deliver. Yet just like Training Day, you'd find it on everyone's top movie list (I'm speaking about majority here). Eh, and what's up with 2001: Space Odyssey or Star Wars? Evolving the movie industry is a huge accomplishment but its predecessors have surpassed them a good decade ago at least. I can shelter the idea that through patience 2001 is a fantastic movie with groundbreaking picture/camera work but I find myself pushing myself just to see more then sixty minutes of that movie. Sorry it just loses my interest and I really don't get the whole infatuation with this movie.

Top five movies I've seen in 2010?

Animal Kingdom
Inception
Toy Story
Restrepo
Kick Ass

Real anxious to see The Expendables though; I don't even care if the plot is empty; I just want to see that cast together.

THE LIST

#348. RENAISSANCE MAN
#347. BLUE STREAK
#346. G.I. JANE
#345. RAT RACE
#344. THE RING
#343. LAW ABIDING CITIZEN
#342. ALPHA DOG
#341. WHITE MEN CAN'T JUMP
#340. SHUTTER ISLAND

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Old 08-05-2010, 03:00 AM   #2
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I'm guessing you're an Aussie since you've seen Animal Kingdom...
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I was plesently surprised by Kick Ass. I had no idea it had Nicholas Cage in it. ChloŽ Grace Moretz is awesome as Hit-Girl.
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I love good movies, but there's just SO many bad ones (of both the mainstream and underground-artsy variety) that I often find myself hesitant to pop one in and give up two hours of my life watching something that has a very high probability of not being good.

i avoid movies that are generic or predictable. i dont watch james bond movies. or indiana jones movies. obviously none of the cartoon superhero movies. dont watch lord of the rings or star wars.

i also hate movies that are supposed to be serious, legitimate movies and then incorporate absurd supernatural occurrences (The Green Mile).

I like movies that are based on real life circumstances and settings, with storylines that progress coherently and dramatically, and with unique and recognizable characters. A Few Good Men, Casino, Titanic, Pulp Fiction, etc.

I just dont **** with dumb movies. I have no interest in them.
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I'm guessing you're an Aussie since you've seen Animal Kingdom...

No, a friend brought over a bunch of movies for me back in July. He visited New Zealand though not Australia, but I guess it's close enough for him to get a copy. It's a horrid quality though, definitely will go to see its theatrical debut here in North America.

I don't think it was better then Toy Story 3 but it rivals Inception; probably the 3rd best movie I've seen in 2010.
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I love good movies, but there's just SO many bad ones (of both the mainstream and underground-artsy variety) that I often find myself hesitant to pop one in and give up two hours of my life watching something that has a very high probability of not being good.

i avoid movies that are generic or predictable. i dont watch james bond movies. or indiana jones movies. obviously none of the cartoon superhero movies. dont watch lord of the rings or star wars.

i also hate movies that are supposed to be serious, legitimate movies and then incorporate absurd supernatural occurrences (The Green Mile).

I like movies that are based on real life circumstances and settings, with storylines that progress coherently and dramatically, and with unique and recognizable characters. A Few Good Men, Casino, Titanic, Pulp Fiction, etc.

I just dont **** with dumb movies. I have no interest in them.

Have you seen Man On Wire? Or how about the infamous Citizen Kane?
If not, you wouldn't be spending two hours of your time watching them.
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#348

RENAISSANCE MAN

Plot: A man who gets fired, files for unemployment. The social worker lets him know they got him a job in the army, his job was to teach a special group of army recruits basic thinking skills. His mission was simple, prevent a bunch of misfits from flunking basic training. This unlikely teacher ends up inspiring not only the kids but himself by using Hamlet as his structure of teaching.

My take: This is a feel good movie, I don't particularly enjoy how the movie was directed but it is a very emotionally drawn movie. I'll give the director credit for delivering illuminating, focused student dialogue. DeVito was great, forget all the critics that trash this movie, give it a chance. This movie is an uplifting dramatic tale about the human condition. It also demonstrates the power of artistry.

Bottom line, this movie is about instilling a sense of self-confidence in a group of people that have grown up thinking they were deficient in some way, only to discover that they have the same abilities as everyone else.

Plot: D
Character: B +
Diction: F
Melody: F
Spectacle: D +
Replay Value: A
Overall score: D -

By plot, I mean the film was well structured, the pace was ideal, there weren't any unnecessary scenes in the movie, there was a feel of cohesion etc.

By character, I simply mean how strong were the performances by the actors in the movie. Are the performances memorable, were the actors suitable for their roles? A great performance delivers interest to the viewers to otherwise insignificant actions and dialogue.

By diction, is the art work of the movie. Images capture viewers attention, superb camera work will intrigue a viewer despite its other short comings.

By melody, I mean proper costumes, complimentary soundtrack, set design (environment), good editing, sound and make-up etc.

Spectacle simply means the originality of the movie; has it ever been done before? Has it left you wanting more, has it brought something new to the screen? The most important thing every film must achieve for this criteria is simply be influential. For example Inception or Star Wars or 2001 would probably get close to perfect for this criteria.

Replay value and Overall rating is pretty self explanatory.

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Pvt. Jamaal Montgomery: You can't say that. That is a diss. I ain't no ox moron.
Bill Rago: No, no, no not ox moron, schmuck; oxymoron.

Pvt. Tommy Lee Haywood: There's these woods behind our trailer park. This old guy lives in the woods there. Everybody in town swore he was crazy. He showed me how to hunt, and how to be real quiet, and how to listen. He said he had seen everythin' in the world he wanted to see, and he ain't never wanted to leave those woods. Well, me and my daddy got laid off at the paper mill, and whilst I spent about five months watchin' TV with my brothers, I kept thinkin' of what the old man said. Finally, I decided that I did want to see more of the world, and what was behind that trailer park. And that's why I joined up.
Private Miranda Myers: I liked livin' with my aunt, Mavis, in Chicago the best. But last summer, my mother, Ruthie, came back and we drove to Atlanta. She said, "We don't have to stay long," but then she met a man, and they take off. I waited around for a while, waitin' for her to come back, but everybody keep sayin', "Just go on home." I don't know where that is. So I take the bus to Cleaveland and spend two days starin' at the poster behind the driver sayin', "Be all you can be." So I think about that for a week, and think I gotta be somewhere, so here I am.
Pvt. Jamaal Mongomerey: In my crib, there ain't never been a time where we eat, sleep, or nothin'. Y'know, everybody just run around crazy. Half the time, I don't even know who were are. I must be the only person in the world who joined the army so he'd know what time he'd eat.
Pvt. Roosevelt Nathaniel Hobbs: I wanted to learn a new trade.

Private Miranda Myers: I'd rather be a Double D than a swinger from the ugly tree, ya fat pig.

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#347

BLUE STREAK



Plot: Miles Logan (Martin Lawrence) is a jewel thief. Things go awry while he's stealing a huge diamond in downtown L.A.: a thief, Deacon, tries a double-cross, the police arrive, and Miles is arrested, but not before he hides the jewel in an air duct of a building under construction. Two years' later, he's out of prison and he heads for the site: it's L.A.'s new police headquarters! Posing as a reassigned cop, Miles gets into the building, but before he can recover the swag, he's partnered with a naive detective and sent out to investigate burglaries. With Deacon on his trail, he must recover the diamond, keep the cops fooled, and do a few good deeds as a detective who can think like a criminal.

My take: It's a good spirited movie mostly due to one of my favorite comedians starring in it. This moving is nothing more then a guilty pleasure, it's the ultimate popcorn flick. The movie itself never rises above the generic but it entertains nonetheless. Basically if you don't find Lawrence funny, do not see this movie (he is literally in every scene); mostly because as routine of a comedy as this movie is, Martin Lawrence is anything but (according to my preference). I am guilty of his contagious humor, and this is one of my favorite films of his.

Bottom line, Blue Streak's plot is trite and generic, lacks subtle or witty dialogues, however not many comedies achieve high status in those parameters anyway. This is a movie that should make you laugh and laugh some more, after a tough day, there aren't that many comedies I'd rather watch then Blue Streak to get my spirits up.

Plot: D
Character: C +
Diction: F
Melody: D -
Spectacle: F
Replay value: A +
Overall: D -

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Miles Logan: Hey, this is the police. Move your busted-ass vehicle. Move, move, move, move. This is the LAPD. We'll pop one in your ass. We got guns and shit.

Melissa Green: [being interrogated] What can you tell me about Miles?
Tulley (Chappelle): All I can tell you is that he's gay! GAY! GAY! GAY!

Miles Logan: What are you gonna do with one shoelace? Floss your ass with it.

Janiece (Logan's ex-girlfriend): You told me you were a banker...
Miles Logan: No, I said bank robber!

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BLUE STREAK



Plot: Miles Logan (Martin Lawrence) is a jewel thief. Things go awry while he's stealing a huge diamond in downtown L.A.: a thief, Deacon, tries a double-cross, the police arrive, and Miles is arrested, but not before he hides the jewel in an air duct of a building under construction. Two years' later, he's out of prison and he heads for the site: it's L.A.'s new police headquarters! Posing as a reassigned cop, Miles gets into the building, but before he can recover the swag, he's partnered with a naive detective and sent out to investigate burglaries. With Deacon on his trail, he must recover the diamond, keep the cops fooled, and do a few good deeds as a detective who can think like a criminal.

My take: It's a good spirited movie mostly due to one of my favorite comedians starring in it. This moving is nothing more then a guilty pleasure, it's the ultimate popcorn flick. The movie itself never rises above the generic but it entertains nonetheless. Basically if you don't find Lawrence funny, do not see this movie (he is literally in every scene); mostly because as routine of a comedy as this movie is, Martin Lawrence is anything but (according to my preference). I am guilty of his contagious humor, and this is one of my favorite films of his.

Bottom line, Blue Streak's plot is trite and generic, lacks subtle or witty dialogues, however not many comedies achieve high status in those parameters anyway. This is a movie that should make you laugh and laugh some more, after a tough day, there aren't that many comedies I'd rather watch then Blue Streak to get my spirits up.

Plot: D
Character: C +
Diction: F
Melody: D -
Spectacle: F
Replay value: A +
Overall: D -

Funny quotes

Miles Logan: Hey, this is the police. Move your busted-ass vehicle. Move, move, move, move. This is the LAPD. We'll pop one in your ass. We got guns and shit.

Melissa Green: [being interrogated] What can you tell me about Miles?
Tulley (Chappelle): All I can tell you is that he's gay! GAY! GAY! GAY!

Miles Logan: What are you gonna do with one shoelace? Floss your ass with it.

Janiece (Logan's ex-girlfriend): You told me you were a banker...
Miles Logan: No, I said bank robber!

Blue Streak Trailer
Love this movie.
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i avoid movies that are generic or predictable. i dont watch james bond movies. or indiana jones movies. obviously none of the cartoon superhero movies. dont watch lord of the rings or star wars.

I like movies that are based on real life circumstances and settings, with storylines that progress coherently and dramatically, and with unique and recognizable characters. A Few Good Men, Casino, Titanic, Pulp Fiction, etc.

You avoid movies that are predictable and then you shortly thereafter state how you like movies that are based on real life circumstances. Brilliant. Titanic is about as generic and as predictable a movie as you can get...
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I'm going to update the list within the next few days, haven't had much spare time for leisure.
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BLUE STREAK



Plot: Miles Logan (Martin Lawrence) is a jewel thief. Things go awry while he's stealing a huge diamond in downtown L.A.: a thief, Deacon, tries a double-cross, the police arrive, and Miles is arrested, but not before he hides the jewel in an air duct of a building under construction. Two years' later, he's out of prison and he heads for the site: it's L.A.'s new police headquarters! Posing as a reassigned cop, Miles gets into the building, but before he can recover the swag, he's partnered with a naive detective and sent out to investigate burglaries. With Deacon on his trail, he must recover the diamond, keep the cops fooled, and do a few good deeds as a detective who can think like a criminal.

My take: It's a good spirited movie mostly due to one of my favorite comedians starring in it. This moving is nothing more then a guilty pleasure, it's the ultimate popcorn flick. The movie itself never rises above the generic but it entertains nonetheless. Basically if you don't find Lawrence funny, do not see this movie (he is literally in every scene); mostly because as routine of a comedy as this movie is, Martin Lawrence is anything but (according to my preference). I am guilty of his contagious humor, and this is one of my favorite films of his.

Bottom line, Blue Streak's plot is trite and generic, lacks subtle or witty dialogues, however not many comedies achieve high status in those parameters anyway. This is a movie that should make you laugh and laugh some more, after a tough day, there aren't that many comedies I'd rather watch then Blue Streak to get my spirits up.

Plot: D
Character: C +
Diction: F
Melody: D -
Spectacle: F
Replay value: A +
Overall: D -

Funny quotes

Miles Logan: Hey, this is the police. Move your busted-ass vehicle. Move, move, move, move. This is the LAPD. We'll pop one in your ass. We got guns and shit.

Melissa Green: [being interrogated] What can you tell me about Miles?
Tulley (Chappelle): All I can tell you is that he's gay! GAY! GAY! GAY!

Miles Logan: What are you gonna do with one shoelace? Floss your ass with it.

Janiece (Logan's ex-girlfriend): You told me you were a banker...
Miles Logan: No, I said bank robber!

Blue Streak Trailer

Great movie.
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#346

GI JANE



Plot: A crusading chairperson of the military budget committee pressures the would be Navy secretary to begin full gender integration of the service, he offers the chance for a test case for a female trainee in a Navy SEAL-style training qualification. LT Jordan O'Niel is given the assignment, but no one expects her to succeed in an inhumanly punishing regime that has a standard 60% dropout rate for men. However, O'Niel is determined to prove everyone wrong.

My Take: First off, this is a Ridley Scott film; already half in are we? Ok, first off I'll chalk this up as a guilty pleasure. Not the greatest movie and I guess in some ways, you must enjoy military-genre movies to enjoy this one. Scott like in his other subsequent titles (Black Hawk Down) has no patience for political propaganda, so he basically ignores that altogether in this movie or lacks any sort of substance when dealing with political issues. What he did achieve with GI Jane is a viscerally thrilling movie. This movie has no real ideological backbone; I never for once got the idea that Scott was attempting to make us think whether or not women should really go into battle. I just found this movie to be an entertaining two hours of my time with some intense scenes but a pretty predictable ending. Mortensen and Bancroft stole the spotlight, easily the two most convincing characters in this thriller.

Bottom line, the predictability of this movie is probably its most glaring weakness. Scott basically allows us to understand from the beginning of the film that we're not here to wonder whether or not Lt. O'Niel will make it past the training; but rather how much punishment will she endure in the process (although certain twists had me wondering). The ingredient that Scott used for this movie was to create a heavy-breathing pictorial ordeal, a script dedicated to eroticized brutality and masochism. I am still unsure what he was trying to prove; that women belong in combat or that certain settings are too much to handle for a female (from a brutality perspective).

This film is a somewhat unrealistic execution of an intriguing idea; but the intense action scenes and Viggo's brilliant performance as Master Chief makes this movie an entertaining experience, especially if you're fascinated with the military world.

Plot: C -
Character: B -
Diction: C +
Melody: B
Spectacle: D
Replay Value: B
Overall: D

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Lt. Jordan O'Neil: Don't know!
Master Chief John Urgayle: It lets you know you're not dead yet!

Master Chief John Urgayle: 60% of you will not pass this course! How do I know? Because that is an historical fact! Now for the bad news, I always like to get one quitter on the first day, and until I do, that first day does not end!

Master Chief John Urgayle: The ebb and flow of the Atlantic tides, the drift of the continents, the very position of the sun along its ecliptic. THESE are just a FEW of the things I control in my world! Is that clear?
Stamm: Yes, Command Master Chief!
Master Chief John Urgayle: [to Everyone] IS THAT CLEAR?
All the CRT Trainees: YES, COMMAND MASTER CHIEF!

Sgt. Cortez: You know O'Neil, I like you better when you drink.
Lt. Jordan O'Neil: You know Cortez, I like you better when I drink.

C.O. Salem: Welcome to SEAL/C.R.T. selection program. You have volunteered for the most intensive military training known to man. You are all proven operators within the SpecOps communtiy: SEALs, EOD, Army Delta, Marine Force Recon, Naval Intel community, and so on. In spite of your expertise, many of you will not successfully negotiate this program. Those that do, will experience an operational tempo that exceeds that of any other unit within the US arsenal. That is all that is to be said about the special nature of the CRT training program. I now turn you over to my Command Master Chief, John James Urgayle.

This quote which happens at the beginning of the movie got me really intrigued.

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Food for thought; why do people find Fight Club so gratifying? It definitely lacks from an entertainment perspective, sure it has a great cast but the movie fails to deliver. Yet just like Training Day, you'd find it on everyone's top movie list (I'm speaking about majority here). Eh, and what's up with 2001: Space Odyssey or Star Wars? Evolving the movie industry is a huge accomplishment but its predecessors have surpassed them a good decade ago at least. I can shelter the idea that through patience 2001 is a fantastic movie with groundbreaking picture/camera work but I find myself pushing myself just to see more then sixty minutes of that movie. Sorry it just loses my interest and I really don't get the whole infatuation with this movie.
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what film exactly do you think has surpassed 2001 space odyssey? I can't think of any production with the scope of ambition and vision as 2001.

and while I haven't made my own list I find it hard to reconcile the fact that GI Jane or renanissance man should be top anything in films. Blue Streak was amusing tho. Looking forward to the rest of your list.

crossover You are a cornell graduate I remember you mention? I spent two years living in Ithaca when I was younger cause my dad is a graduate and worked there. What did you study?
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