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Old 08-15-2010, 10:06 AM   #16
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what film exactly do you think has surpassed 2001 space odyssey? I can't think of any production with the scope of ambition and vision as 2001.

and while I haven't made my own list I find it hard to reconcile the fact that GI Jane or renanissance man should be top anything in films. Blue Streak was amusing tho. Looking forward to the rest of your list.

crossover You are a cornell graduate I remember you mention? I spent two years living in Ithaca when I was younger cause my dad is a graduate and worked there. What did you study?

You know it's our state of mind. There are particular movies like Clockwork Orange, 2001, Fight Club that dominant people's list and they enjoy them (for whatever reason) immensely. There is a like a tick, a threshold that every film fanatic looks for as their primary basis. Do I value, appreciate and recognize what 2001 has done for the filming industry? Do I consider it an evolving film? Of course, its parameters are near perfection at every level. Why will you not see this film on my list? Because its replay value is very small for me. Maybe I should have deciphered more clearly that this list consists of my favorite movies not films that I consider the best while ignoring (my own) personal preference. The subjectivity will always be there and of course every person has difference propensity to what intrigues them.

My list will take months to complete, my leisure time is minuscule; I don't have more then two hours for my self right now, but I will not get lackadaisical and try to rush this project. My goal is not for you to critique my taste in movies (although I'm always open for a civil discussion) but rather bring forth some enlightenment to movies some of you have never had the opportunity to watch or even heard of.

I graduated with an Accounting degree from Cornell, terrific school. Had so many memorable moments there & meeting the women of my dreams was the icing on the cake.

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Old 08-15-2010, 10:26 AM   #17
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Because its replay value is very small for me. Maybe I should have deciphered more clearly that this list consists of my favorite movies not films that I consider the best while ignoring (my own) personal preference. The subjectivity will always be there and of course every person has difference propensity to what intrigues them.

My goal is not for you to critique my taste in movies (although I'm always open for a civil discussion) but rather bring forth some enlightenment to movies some of you have never had the opportunity to watch or even heard of.

I graduated with an Accounting degree from Cornell, terrific school. Had so many memorable moments there & meeting the women of my dreams was the icing on the cake.

I can respect that. I didn't realize how big of a factor that replay value was for you from your initial post. It was weird that you had D+ movies, by your own admission, in your top list. But I notice their replay value is sky high which no doubt is key in your criteria. I guess I'm on the different end of spectrum where I try not to watch films multiple times unless I'm confounded by it, ala mulholland drive, persona etc.

So you must been at cornell for graduate school since you got accounting degree? Yea ithaca is pretty gorges lol I didn't attend it for college cause it was too hilly for me but definitely a rocking place in middle of no where, new york.
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Old 08-19-2010, 10:51 PM   #18
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RAT RACE



Plot: A betting-obsessed casino mogul and his group of just as bad billionaire associates, sets up a new kind of gamble in a race for $2 million hidden away in a locker. They enlist the aid of eight people who happen to be residing in his casino at once. A clean cut lawyer, a disgraced NFL referee, two inept brothers, a determined mother and daughter, a narcoleptic Italian immigrant, and a desperate father embark on a series of misadventures to obtain the money regardless of what it takes.

My Take: This is far from a sophisticated comedy but this movie is a genuinely hilarious belly-acher. The only people that would say something crude about this comedy are self-indulging movie critics who consistently concentrate on the film's dialogues and flow among other irrelevant paradigms, rather then main intention of the film. This movie is shallow and sophomoric; however (in my opinion) it's a movie you'll have fun watching. This movie wasn't directed for the viewers to leave with a lasting impression; this movie was sole directed for the purpose of making us laugh at its flat-out silliness.

Bottom line, it's an aggressively pointless movie that captures you in to the realms of absurdity that is aggressively funny. This movie might traffic in jokes of questionable taste, but it does so without malice or guile.

Plot: C +
Character: D
Diction: D
Melody: C
Spectacle: F
Replay Value: A
Overall: D

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Bev Pear: Your daughter has to go to the bathroom!
Randy Pear: All right, all right, Jason, look in the back for an empty jar.
Bev Pear: A jar? Girls don't pee in jars.
Jason, we're gonna need a jar and a funnel.


Randy Pear: Jason, where did you get that?
Jason Pear: I found it under the seat.
Randy Pear: Give it to me. You can't play that.
Jason Pear: Why not?
Randy Pear: Because it's Hitler's harmonica. You can't play Hitler's harmonica.
Jason Pear: You're driving his car!
Randy Pear: Yes, but I'm not touching it with my mouth. I'm not sucking on the dashboard. I'm not getting his germs! Randy Pear: Oh, right. Sorry.

Enrico Pollini: Am I too late ? Look I won a coin, a gold coin! Oh, isn't this wonderful? Look at this room, what a beautiful room, have you seen this room?
Randy Pear: Yes! We're in it!

Merrill: It's some sort of joke. It has to be.
Duane Cody: What kind of jackass just gives away $2 million?
Owen Templeton: Maybe it's a publicity stunt.
Randy Pear: What kind of publicity? He swore us all to secrecy.
Vera Baker: Maybe it's a secret publicity stunt.
Randy Pear: A *secret* publicity stunt?

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THE RING



Plot: Rachel Keller is a young journalist who's recently heard about a mysteriously cursed videotape, that seemed to lead to her nieces death within 7 days of her watching it. Puzzled, confused, and saddened by her tragic and sudden death, she begins to do some further investigation on this horrific video which involves her visiting the "Shelter Mountain Inn", the infamous place where her niece Katie and her friends first viewed this videotape. She herself watches the video, and sure enough the phone begins to ring.... "7 days". So now the clock is ticking and the days are going by, and Rachel has only 7 days to unravel the mystery of "The Ring". As many questions arise, and parts of this unraveled mystery begin to be revealed, there is only one question that remains.... will she make it in time, or will her 7 days be up before she can solve this puzzle?

My Take: Many people that I know found flaws within the script, I somewhat disagree. It does make sense if people take the context of the film; it is about the supernatural world, that is the primary intent of the movie. Not sure why people keep following the normal rules of our mundane physical world, when judging the movie's supposed holes. This horror movie is not about gore, it's about setting an atmosphere of creepiness. The Ring does an outstanding job in this regard and I really felt like that mood was present throughout the entire film. The movie is most definitely a seat jumper, there are many unexpected moments that make you close your eyes. I guess why this is one of my favorite horrors (and horror isn't exactly my ideal genre) is because the movie captures the essence of horror in my idea of it. It is subtle, quiet and deeply enigmatic. It is most definitely one of the most resourceful horror movies of the past decade.

Bottom line, Verbinski delivered an eye-popping horror flick with a dose of sensationalistic bravura that sets the right tone. It has some of the Sixth Sense elements when Aiden (one of the main characters) starts to experience chilling vibes that result in him hallucinating about daunting dark images. At the end of the day, it is really up to the viewer if they appreciate the artistic design of this movie. The Ring is a relentlessly infuriating supernatural thriller that chews its own atmospheric synergy quite fitting. At the end of the day this horror film is distinctive, eerie, unsetting and suggestive; it's my favorite horror movie of 2002.

Plot: B
Character: C+
Diction: A
Melody: B
Replay Value: D (losses it's suspenseful elements after 1st watch)
Overall: C-

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Samara Morgan: But I do, and I'm sorry. It won't stop.

Aidan Keller: What happened to the girl?
Rachel Keller: Samara?
Aidan Keller: Is that her name?
Rachel Keller: Mm-hmm.
Aidan Keller: Is she still in the dark place?
Rachel Keller: No. We set her free.
Aidan Keller: You helped her?
Rachel Keller: Yeah.
Aidan Keller: Why did you do that?
Rachel Keller: What's wrong, honey?
Aidan Keller: You weren't supposed to help her.

Rachel Keller: Katie told you she was going to die?
Aidan Keller: She said she didn't have enough time.

Ruth: I spent four hours on the internet and I couldn't find one single case of a 16-year-old girl's heart just stopping. I spoke to three different doctors and not one of them could tell me exactly what happened to my daughter.

Samara Morgan: [singing by the well] : Here we go, the world is spinning. When it stops, it's just beginning. Sun comes up, we all laugh. Sun goes down, we all die...


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RAT RACE



Plot: A betting-obsessed casino mogul and his group of just as bad billionaire associates, sets up a new kind of gamble in a race for $2 million hidden away in a locker. They enlist the aid of eight people who happen to be residing in his casino at once. A clean cut lawyer, a disgraced NFL referee, two inept brothers, a determined mother and daughter, a narcoleptic Italian immigrant, and a desperate father embark on a series of misadventures to obtain the money regardless of what it takes.

My Take: This is far from a sophisticated comedy but this movie is a genuinely hilarious belly-acher. The only people that would say something crude about this comedy are self-indulging movie critics who consistently concentrate on the film's dialogues and flow among other irrelevant paradigms, rather then main intention of the film. This movie is shallow and sophomoric; however (in my opinion) it's a movie you'll have fun watching. This movie wasn't directed for the viewers to leave with a lasting impression; this movie was sole directed for the purpose of making us laugh at its flat-out silliness.

Bottom line, it's an aggressively pointless movie that captures you in to the realms of absurdity that is aggressively funny. This movie might traffic in jokes of questionable taste, but it does so without malice or guile.

Plot: C +
Character: D
Diction: D
Melody: C
Spectacle: F
Replay Value: A
Overall: D




didn't like this movie @ all, personally.

why is the Replay Value so high for you??
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didn't like this movie @ all, personally.

why is the Replay Value so high for you??

This list is based on my ideals and preferences; I enjoy goofy movies like these cause it lightens up my mood. It's just a non-sensical comedy to me that has unlimited replay value.

This list will get better eventually I do have a lot of movies at the beginning that people will question and I'm not exactly providing a lot of enlightenment as it pertains to great movies that aren't as popular; but that's what happens when you have such a broad range of movies to pick from. Replay value is the only reason this movie made this list; as you can tell most of the parameters are quite low. So I'm not expecting many people to agree with me on Rat Race; you just have to realize that the scope I'm picking from is extremely wide.
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A month goes by and we've only cracked the low 340's.

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LAW ABIDING CITIZEN

Plot: The plot focuses on a man who, ten years after his wife and daughter are brutally murdered, returns to extract justice from the assistant district attorney who prosecuted the case against their killers. His vengeance threatens not only the man who allowed mercy to supersede justice, but also the system and the city that made it so.

My Take: The movies entertainment value is hard to deny; despite of its glaring ideological posturing. It's your prototypical cat and mouse suspense with exceptionally creative methodologies of killing people. This movie irked me a little because I'm still not sure what the director intended to achieve: did he try to pull off some sort of morality play questioning the legitimacy of the criminal justice system?! Straight up, the apparent good guy who is seeking revenge for the slaughtering of his family is the bad guy (in my opinion); despite the mixed emotions that viewers felt while watching this film. Despite of its creative methodologies; the movie is full of incoherent, ignorant, paranoid violence without much internal logic. The reason I like this movie is because it's a popcorn flick that delivers an entertaining thrill ride and succeeds in building a suitably explosive climax.

Bottom line, this movie is filled with supernova-size plot holes and soaked in cliches. The movie does have an intriguing idea behind the writing, however it fails pretty badly in almost all areas. Viewers who are looking to get entertained, will; people who are looking for a coherent piece of cinema will be hugely disappointed. This movie will appeal to the lower common denominator rather than the intelligent portion of the viewers brain. As preposterous and asinine as this movie is it's still mindlessly entertaining and Butler's performance is very captivating. A high minded brutality that tries to pass itself off as a dialectic on justice betrayal; ends up playing our nation's legal system as the victim due to its implausible plot.

Did I trash this movie bad enough? Guess what, it's still on my list and that says a lot; because its entertainment value is exceptionally high only if you don't over-analyze the narrative/dialogue.

Plot: F
Character: B+
Diction: B
Melody: C
Spectacle: C- (creative plot, that fails due to its implausibilities)
Replay Value: B+
Overall: C-

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Clyde Shelton: [smiles] I'm just gettin' warmed up.
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Clyde Shelton: I'm gonna pull the whole thing down. I'm gonna bring the whole ****in' diseased, corrupt temple down on your head. It's gonna be biblical.

Jonas Cantrell: Tell us what we're dealing with. Shelton was a spy...?
Bray: Look, spies are a dime a dozen. I'm a spy. Clyde is a brain. He's a think tank-type guy. His specialty was low-impact kinetic operations.
Nick Rice: That's a hell of a fancy way to say that he kills people.
Bray: We kill people. He figured out how to do it without ever being in the same room. It was his gift, and he was the best. One time, we're tasking this tricky target. I mean, we're usin' cruise missiles and Predators, and we even had a B-2 Bomber flatten this guy's villa with JDAM. Alright, we're burnin' up millions in ordinance and we're gettin' nowhere with this guy. So we call Clyde, and we ask him to solve our problem. Clyde develops a Kevlar thread with a high-tech ratchet made of carbon fiber. Put it in a necktie. Two days later, Mrs. Bad Guy comes home, finds Mr. Bad Guy dead on the bathroom tile, choked to death. What I'm sayin' is, just assume that this guy can hear and see everything that you're doing.
Nick Rice: No. We got him locked away; maximum security.
Bray: He's in jail, it's because he wants to be in jail. He's a born tactician. Every move that he makes, it means something. That cellmate that he killed, what, you think that was random? No. That's a pawn being moved off the board. If I were you, I'd be lookin' for the next piece. Anybody who had anything to do with that case, he's gonna be comin' after you.
Nick Rice: So what are you sayin'? You sayin' we can't stop him?
Bray: Walk into his cell, and put a bullet in his head. Aside from that, no, you can't stop him. If Clyde wants you dead, you're dead.

Nick Rice: You think your wife and daughter would feel good about you killing in their name?
Clyde Shelton: My wife and daughter can't feel anything. They're dead.

Clyde Shelton: This... Tetrodotoxin. Should be nicely into your system by now. Isolated from the liver of a Caribbean Puffer Fish. So, it paralyzes you... and leaves all the other neurological functions perfectly intact. In other words, you can't move... but you feel everything. It does absolutely nothing to blunt the pain... and you're about to experience more of that, than you could ever ****ing imagine.

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wow, several jaw droopingly bad films so far, but then as you said- these are just films you enjoy, atleast you arent delusional.
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I was plesently surprised by Kick Ass. I had no idea it had Nicholas Cage in it. Chloë Grace Moretz is awesome as Hit-Girl.
it kinda felt like 2 different movies to me. def redeemed by hit girl and big daddy. I expected it to be less of a teenie movie, but I enjoyed it anyways. still, a little disconcerting.
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#342.

ALPHA DOG

Plot: 1999, Claremont, California. Middle-class kids, in their 20s, talk trash, wave guns, hang out in a pack. Johnny Truelove, drug dealer and son of a underworld figure, threatens Jake Mazursky, an explosive head case who owes Johnny money; Jake responds by breaking into Johnny's house. On impulse, Johnny and a couple pals kidnap Jake's 15-year-old brother, Zach. Zach's okay with it, figuring his brother will pay the debt soon. Johnny assigns his buddy Frankie to be Zach's minder, and they develop a brotherly friendship. Zach parties with his captors as things begin to spin out of control. Group think, amorality, and fear of prison assert a hold on the pack. Is Zach in danger?

My Take: This film is tricky; it's a movie I can watch endlessly sole due to the performance of one particular character; Ben Foster, such a captivating performance by him. The film basically combines an aimless ramble through juvenile depravity and a quite disturbing evocation of a real-life murder of a teenager. Timberlake I thought gave an outstanding performance based on my expectations of his acting skills; the quasi-fraternal tenderness that springs up between him and the abducted boy is compelling and touchingly observed. The chemistry between those two characters defines the movie for me; it builds up the climax that is highly unpredictable, shocking, confusing, highly emotional and down right tragical. The script itself does bury a lot of character and thematic ambitions in the fact of the case; it also I suppose lacks insight. This movie reminded me of Dazed and Confused in a lot of ways; pointless plot (outside of its accurate precedents) and a terrific young cast who captivate the big screen. There is this remarkable authenticity that Alpha Dog offers to the viewers which makes its replay value extremely high. Kids is a movie that people either love or hate, primarily because of the cast; my feelings are mutual with this film, except not even in Dazed and Confused has there been a more stellar performance then Ben Foster. Overacting is what most critics said about his performance; sure on the surface maybe, but I felt that Foster's psychopathic behavior was the backbone to this chilling drama.

Bottom line, disturbing yet energizing at the same time; Alpha Dog assembles a young cast through a story of foggy intentions, bad decisions and righteous partying that works because it feels so dangerously real. It's a sporadically intriguing film but ultimately not very effective yet certain aspects are stubbornly stuck. Ultimately its meant to be a cautionary tale that has an atmosphere of decadent disdain. Perhaps the director tried to shine a light on parents who have abdicated their positions of guidance and discipline; or perhaps it was just a retelling of a real-life crime that was directed with little insight but with extraordinary naturalism. Films main strength is definitely the acting; Cassevetes elicits believable performances from his young cast that had undeniable chemistry throughout the film.

Plot: C
Character: A
Diction: C
Melody: C
Spectacle: D
Replay Value: A+ (personal preference)
Overall: C-

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Frankie Ballenbacher: You want a cigarette?
Zack Mazursky: No, I don't smoke.
Frankie Ballenbacher: **** that. It's good for you.

Jake Mazursky: [on the phone with Johnny Truelove] No matter where you go, No matter what you do, I'm gonna hunt you down. I'm gonna hunt you down and then I'm gonna slit your throat and then I'm gonna cut you open and then I'M GONNA EAT YOUR MOTHER ****ING HEART! YOU BETTER YOU PRAY, JOHNNY YOU BETTER ****ING PRAY THAT THE COPS FIND YOU, BEFORE I DO! GET ON YOUR COCKSUCKING KNEES AND PRAY!

Frankie Ballenbacher: Where is that mother****er?
Johnny Truelove: Who the **** knows? I don't know! He's probably laying low waiting to shoot me in the ****ing head! I mean, think about it, that's what I'd be doing.
Frankie Ballenbacher: Stop already, alright? You know how I get with this anxiety shit! [pause]

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#341.

WHITE MEN CAN'T JUMP

Plot: Billy and Sydney think they're the best basketball hustlers in town, so when they join forces, nothing can stop them, except each other. To add to their problems, Billy owes money and is being chased by a pair of gangster types.

My Take: First off, it's my favorite "basketball" film ever. This movie isn't only about basketball first-off; it's a comedy of great high spirits, with an undercurrent of sadness and sweetness that makes it a lot better than the plot itself could possibly suggest. The energy of the stars (Woody, Wesley and Perez) prevents this formula from being hackneyed. The dialogue itself is very funny despite it being raggedy and lacking focus. Rosie Perez to me stole the show from the two leading actors; one of my all-time favorite actresses of the 90's. The climate is quite harmonious, where rude remarks create a benign atmosphere that makes it the films most significant charm.

Bottom line, this film is about relationships, loyalty and honesty. The central structure of the movie isn't very coherent yet you can't deny Shelton's refreshing enthusiasm. At the beginning of the movie you'll find a lot of provocative one-on-one between racial opposites; yet as the movie progresses you start to appreciate the chemistry that Harrelson and Snipes establish among each other. WMCJ is a truly terrific piece of entertainment propelled by the magic and dynamism of its stars. The jokes and banter are at the core of this comedy; some of the most quotable insults I've ever heard in a film of this genre. On-court this movie provides a lot of laughs; off-court it provides real drama, providing an edgy relationship between its two leading actors with a a great supporting actress who walks a thin line between sentiment and hysteria.

Plot: D
Character: A
Diction: C
Melody: B+
Spectacle: D
Replay Value: A+
Overall: C-

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Sidney Deane: Oh man shut your anorexic malnutrition tapeworm-having overdose on Dick Gregory Bahamian diet-drinking ass up. Leave me alone!

Sidney Deane: Hey hey man, what's the score? Yo! Chump! I'm talking to you! I'm talking to the ****ing air.
Billy Hoyle: My name ain't chump, it's Billy Hoyle.
Sidney Deane: Billy Hoyle. BILLY HOYLE. Billy Hoyle. Okay Billy... can you count to ten, Billy?
Billy Hoyle: Yeah.
Sidney Deane: Good. What's the score... Billy?
Billy Hoyle: I don't know.
Sidney Deane: Then you're a chump.
Billy Hoyle: I may be a chump, I just said that wasn't my name.

Billy Hoyle: You calling me ugly?
Sidney Deane: Your mother did.

Gloria Clemente: Sometimes when you win, you really lose, and sometimes when you lose, you really win, and sometimes when you win or lose, you actually tie, and sometimes when you tie, you actually win or lose. Winning or losing is all one organic mechanism, from which one extracts what one needs.

Billy Hoyle: I'll tell you what. Why don't we take all these bricks and build a shelter for the homeless, so maybe your mother will have a place to stay.

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Me.

I'm a movie fanatic; all genres from all ages. This is not going to be a topic about simply naming movies, this is a thread about promulgating the most intriguing movies I have seen in my lifetime. For each movie I will deliberate my assessment (flaws, acting, dialogue, plot, flow, picture, music, camera work etc.), explain the plot and grade the overall movie. The movies will flow in a descending order.

I would say there are a lot more movies from the last four decades that will appear on this list mainly because of my age and preference. I'm not looking for criticism, I'm looking to exhibit movies that some of you have yet to see but should. There will be movies that you don't like or will disagree on the rating I give them but in the grand scheme of things I'm sure each of you will find at least a dozen movies you will want to see that you have not yet seen. The reason I'm going to take my time with this project is because I want to fragment each movie and explain to you why it's worth watching.

This will take some time but just bare with me. I'm sure I'll create some controversy that will spark some pretty insightful debates.

I'll start this later this week probably, by rating the first ten or so movies.

Food for thought; why do people find Fight Club so gratifying? It definitely lacks from an entertainment perspective, sure it has a great cast but the movie fails to deliver. Yet just like Training Day, you'd find it on everyone's top movie list (I'm speaking about majority here). Eh, and what's up with 2001: Space Odyssey or Star Wars? Evolving the movie industry is a huge accomplishment but its predecessors have surpassed them a good decade ago at least. I can shelter the idea that through patience 2001 is a fantastic movie with groundbreaking picture/camera work but I find myself pushing myself just to see more then sixty minutes of that movie. Sorry it just loses my interest and I really don't get the whole infatuation with this movie.

Top five movies I've seen in 2010?

Animal Kingdom
Inception
Toy Story
Restrepo
Kick Ass

Real anxious to see The Expendables though; I don't even care if the plot is empty; I just want to see that cast together.

THE LIST

#348. RENAISSANCE MAN
#347. BLUE STREAK
#346. G.I. JANE
#345. RAT RACE
#344. THE RING
#343. LAW ABIDING CITIZEN
#342. ALPHA DOG
#341. WHITE MEN CAN'T JUMP

Those movies suck. White Men Can't Jump was decent at one time, but it's slang is so dated that it's impossible for me to take that movie seriously at this point. And Rosie Perez is about as bad as it gets.
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