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Old 08-05-2010, 12:25 AM   #1
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Default So who will you blame if Maimi doesnt win a championship?

Ive been observing these boards for a while and ive noticed a lot of (not saying all and not saying only) Laker fans saying that LeBron will not be 'the man' in Miami, that its Wade's team, etc. So my question is, if Miami fail to win a ring in the next two - three years, who here will you personally blame?

If you have previously said that its Wade's team, you will obvously blame Wade right? Or are people just saying LeBrons not the man in an attempt to discredit his ability or status in the game, then when they dont win, they will act like its squarely on his shoulders?

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Old 08-05-2010, 12:26 AM   #2
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Default Re: So who will you blame if Maimi doesnt win a championship?

lebron cuz he brought the cleveland curse with him. wade already had a ring.
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:27 AM   #3
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If Miami loses, I will blame either Boston, LA, or OKC. If Miami loses, it will be one of those three teams who takes them out.
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:27 AM   #4
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Default Re: So who will you blame if Maimi doesnt win a championship?

All three of their stars will catch heat obviously (pun intentional).
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:28 AM   #5
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Default Re: So who will you blame if Maimi doesnt win a championship?

Wade has proved he can win a championship with a good partner, Lebron hasn't, so lebron will be to blame, even if he is the 2nd fiddle.
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:29 AM   #6
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Default Re: So who will you blame if Maimi doesnt win a championship?

If LeBron doesn't win a title in the next 2-3 years in any situation (Cleveland, Chicago, New York, Miami, etc.) it would be his fault one way or another.

I think that's part of the reason Miami was the pick ... it gives him the best chance to win in the immediate next 2-3 years. He's going to be the scapegoat in any situation if he doesn't win, so you might as well put yourself in the best situation.
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:32 AM   #7
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D-Wade showed who he is in game # 4 against Celtics. (2010 PO 1st round).

He didn't quit the game not like lbj.

So if Heat can't get any champs, it might be lbj 's fault.
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:32 AM   #8
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Default Re: So who will you blame if Maimi doesnt win a championship?

How about we reserve judgment on the reasoning until we actually find out why they didn't win? I'm just excited to see these three guys play together! Although I'd say the most likely reason would be the size of the Lakers.
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:35 AM   #9
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doesn't it depend on why they lost? if they lose because they get butchered in the paint which is the most likely scenario why would lebron or wade be blamed? i'd blame riley for putting together a lopsided team before i blame the players...
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:36 AM   #10
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Lots of people will blame David Stern and the refs; all the Heat players outside of the 3 Divas will be blamed and called scrubs...
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:36 AM   #11
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Default Re: So who will you blame if Maimi doesnt win a championship?

Lebron is going to be blamed. Even by people who say hes a sidekick. Which is going to be one of the worst cases of contradictory logic ever expressed on the internet. Which is saying something.

Reason sense tells you...if its Wades team wade takes the blame if they lose. But he wont. Because most everyone knows Lebron is the premier player on the team and the guy considered best is always blamed and credited.

It will show that the people calling him a sidekick know it isnt true. They just have to hate one way or the other. If they win...he won as a sidekick and gets sidekick credit. If they lose....Lebron lost. Lebron....as the sidekick/second fiddle/supporting player....lost. Hes to blame. Not the leader.

And they will pretend it makes sense because it allows them to hate.
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:40 AM   #12
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Um... when did that become an individual accomplishment? Excuse me but isnt a Championship a TEAM ACCOMPLISHMENT?

Who to blame? The team.....

You could be Wilt Chamberlain or Oscar Robertson and put up 50 point triple doubles for the entire playoffs and put on some of the best clutch performances and defensive performances ever and still not win a championship.......... hence why not even some of the most talented/skilled players in NBA history have not won even ONE........ not even the most complete player of all time (Oscar Robertson) won championships enough, he had only 1.... meanwhile somebody like DJ Mbenga has plenty.....

Why does this happen? Because this is a team game and a Championship is specifically the biggest team accomplishment there is.........
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:41 AM   #13
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Lebron is going to be blamed. Even by people who say hes a sidekick. Which is going to be one of the worst cases of contradictory logic ever expressed on the internet. Which is saying something.

Reason sense tells you...if its Wades team wade takes the blame if they lose. But he wont. Because most everyone knows Lebron is the premier player on the team and the guy considered best is always blamed and credited.

It will show that the people calling him a sidekick know it isnt true. They just have to hate one way or the other. If they win...he won as a sidekick and gets sidekick credit. If they lose....Lebron lost. Lebron....as the sidekick/second fiddle/supporting player....lost. Hes to blame. Not the leader.

And they will pretend it makes sense because it allows them to hate.

100% dead on.
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:43 AM   #14
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Lebron is going to be blamed. Even by people who say hes a sidekick. Which is going to be one of the worst cases of contradictory logic ever expressed on the internet. Which is saying something.

Reason sense tells you...if its Wades team wade takes the blame if they lose. But he wont. Because most everyone knows Lebron is the premier player on the team and the guy considered best is always blamed and credited.

It will show that the people calling him a sidekick know it isnt true. They just have to hate one way or the other. If they win...he won as a sidekick and gets sidekick credit. If they lose....Lebron lost. Lebron....as the sidekick/second fiddle/supporting player....lost. Hes to blame. Not the leader.

And they will pretend it makes sense because it allows them to hate.




I agree 100%
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:43 AM   #15
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Default Re: So who will you blame if Maimi doesnt win a championship?

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Um... when did that become an individual accomplishment? Excuse me but isnt a Championship a TEAM ACCOMPLISHMENT?

Who to blame? The team.....

You could be Wilt Chamberlain or Oscar Robertson and put up 50 point triple doubles for the entire playoffs and put on some of the best clutch performances and defensive performances ever and still not win a championship.......... hence why not even some of the most talented/skilled players in NBA history have not won even ONE........ not even the most complete player of all time (Oscar Robertson) won championships enough, he had only 1.... meanwhile somebody like DJ Mbenga has plenty.....

Why does this happen? Because this is a team game and a Championship is specifically the biggest team accomplishment there is.........

So explain to me why the number on rings someone has is important in the determination of GOAT lists. I agree with you completely. Its a team sport and rings should be looked at with little emphasis, but the fact is, when a team loses typically one or two people get blamed, example; Lebron v Celts.

I dont get it, but its the way it seems to go. Only on ISH.
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