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Old 08-19-2010, 09:46 AM   #16
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It is my understanding that building this mask is just a spare of the moment idea.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:17 AM   #17
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i'm pretty much out of 9/11 sympathy. its so thrown in everyones faces constantly, more than any other tragedy, when it didn't affect most people. Mostly only people in/around New York. I don't see a difference between someones son dying in Iraq/Afghanistan, much less someone close to somebody dying in any other tragic accident, and yet 9/11 victims constantly demand this sympathy from the whole country, if not handouts for their loss. Its basically this HUGe guilt trip on the whole country of being sympathetic to it constantly. Its basically used as a propaganda for war against the Muslim religion which is pretty much a right based mentality, and so consistent with how they constantly generalize, and in line with why they get a rap for having a lot of racists in their party. they don't condemn the perpetrators, but the whole religion/race. its really how a lot of them think...

politicians play it up, and constantly cite it, since it makes them look good in terms of patriotic America acceptance/votes. Its just become this huge propaganda basis for a never-ending pursuit against terrorism, and pretty much the catalyst to us hastily rushing to war in Iraq/Afghanistan.

i'm not saying it wasn't a tragedy, but there are a lot of tragedies that affect different people, and those who lost are in the same boat as those who lost in any other tragic incident. the biggest difference is 9/11 victims guilt trip it, want reparations constantly, and expect everyone else to forever be held to their same feeling of loss, or be called unpatriotic. i'm pretty much done with the 9/11 sympathy for how much i hear it cited, and read about the victims wanting this and that through lawsuits, and whatever else they can make out on, while holding the rest of the country hostage to their patriotism guilt trip.

It must be fun talking out of your ass all the time without repercussions.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:18 AM   #18
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I'm almost certain Arab officials have decided to build elsewhere.
Where did you hear this? Just yesterday I was watching the news and they were still adamant about having it at the proposed site, which is a couple blocks away from the ground zero site and is also a mosque/community center. I saw officials saying they did not want to move it because they're following zoning codes and they got a good deal on the real estate because before it was just a run down Burlington Coat Factory. Then there were other people saying what's the big deal about it when it was just a BCF before, there's a Catholic church in the area, etc.

It's a pretty complicated issue, I see what people mean when they say they don't want it, but I just don't agree with that point of view. Another good point an official from a Muslim organization said is that for the people who want them to move away, how far is away? When does it get to a point when we are running a religion out of town? They're reaching opposition in building mosques in other parts of New York/New Jersey as well so eventually they have to stand firm in their position to build where they want as long as it follows code. I saw a poll on the subject that said ~60% of people are opposed to the building of it, but also around the same amount believe they have a right to build it.

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Old 08-19-2010, 11:20 AM   #19
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Where did you hear this? Just yesterday I was watching the news and they were still adamant about having it at the proposed site, which is a couple blocks away from the ground zero site and is also a mosque/community center. I saw officials saying they did not want to move it because they're following zoning codes and they got a good deal on the real estate because before it was just a run down Burlington Coat Factory. Then there were other people saying how are people saying the site is holy ground for us when it was just a BCF before, there's a Catholic church in the area, etc.

It's a pretty complicated issue, I see what people mean when they say they don't want it, but I just don't agree with that point of view.
yeah, pete dont know what he's talking about. i think the mayor proposed a new site yesterday. anyways, this group hasn't even started raising funds to build this "mask" yet.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:38 AM   #20
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yeah, pete dont know what he's talking about. i think the mayor proposed a new site yesterday. anyways, this group hasn't even started raising funds to build this "mask" yet.

I think pete was making satire.

lol @ masks...How can anybody really be THAT dumb.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:56 AM   #21
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It must be fun talking out of your ass all the time without repercussions.
you seem to be an expert at it.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:57 AM   #22
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yeah, pete dont know what he's talking about. i think the mayor proposed a new site yesterday. anyways, this group hasn't even started raising funds to build this "mask" yet.
besides, its not even a mosque. I maintain that its within their constitutional right to locate a religious structure wherever the **** they please.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:57 AM   #23
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It must be fun talking out of your ass all the time without repercussions.


as usual you don't use logic to ever make a point, just ride bandwagons like the follower fgt you are.

argue my logic. too bad youre too brainwashed and politically correct by mainstream America and popular opinion. you're such a sorry ass poster here i don't know why you even bother commenting on anything since its never a independent thought of your own.
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:01 PM   #24
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you seem to be an expert at it.


yeah really, its all this kid does. ditto'ing his butt buddy favorites here, its like he's got 3-4 cocks in his mouth all of the time. can't stand that kid, even worse is his handle is Gallinari. i mean talk about fotm bandwagons...
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:03 PM   #25
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i'm pretty much out of 9/11 sympathy. its so thrown in everyones faces constantly, more than any other tragedy, when it didn't affect most people. Mostly only people in/around New York. I don't see a difference between someones son dying in Iraq/Afghanistan, much less someone close to somebody dying in any other tragic accident, and yet 9/11 victims constantly demand this sympathy from the whole country, if not handouts for their loss. Its basically this HUGe guilt trip on the whole country of being sympathetic to it constantly. Its basically used as a propaganda for war against the Muslim religion which is pretty much a right based mentality, and so consistent with how they constantly generalize, and in line with why they get a rap for having a lot of racists in their party. they don't condemn the perpetrators, but the whole religion/race. its really how a lot of them think...

The only person I see generalizing here is you and you seem to identify yourself with the "left." Quit making yourself look like an idiot.
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:06 PM   #26
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what i find comical is that they are attacking the leader of the proposition by saying that he has terrorist ties etc. when in fact he is an advocate for antiterrorism and not only that, he was invited by the BUSH ADMINISTRATION to give presentations and speeched to FBI agents and military personnel post 9/11!

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Old 08-19-2010, 12:08 PM   #27
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The only person I see generalizing here is you and you seem to identify yourself with the "left." Quit making yourself look like an idiot.


argue it then jackass. are the 9/11 patriotic America the left? Are the racists part of the left? Are the ones blaming the muslim religion or so protective of miles and miles around ground zero left wing people?

you've tried to spout that politically correct BS before and i've called you out on it EVERY TIME, and shut your ass up since you can't even respond with an argument they aren't. if anything your constant dumbass generalizations that both parties are the same is some of the dumbest shit i constantly read from you, and you're still trying to act it, when there are OBVIOUS differences between both parties. especially when it relates to 'patriotic America', and the guilt trips.


last but not least, i'm pretty sure it was your dumbass i had to explain in a thread the other day why i need to talk in generalizations in the context of talking about masses of people. just because you or some other dude has some variation, doesn't mean a generalization isn't for the most part true. look up generalization, it doesn't mean everyone, more than many/most. its retarded how politically correct a lot of people are without being realistic.

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Old 08-19-2010, 12:11 PM   #28
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argue it then jackass. are the 9/11 patriotic America the left? Are the racists part of the left? Are the ones blaming the muslim religion or so protective of miles and miles around ground zero left wing people?

you've tried to spout that politically correct BS before and i've called you out on it EVERY TIME, and shut your ass up since you can't even respond with an argument they aren't. if anything your constant dumbass generalizations that both parties are the same is some of the dumbest shit i constantly read from you, and you're still trying to act it, when there are OBVIOUS differences between both parties. especially when it relates to 'patriotic America', and the guilt trips.

I'm just arguing that single point dumbass. You generalize on here more than anybody on ISH. You even say, "most of them are racist." And that's only based on what you watch on TV.

There are racist people in the so called "left" and I'm sure there are people that are against the building of this mosque on the so called "left." Your generalizations saying, "only the right does this" just makes you look straight up retarded.

Politically correct BS? All I said was that you generalize ALL THE DAMN time and it makes you look like an idiot. That's not politically correct BS. That's just CORRECT.
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:11 PM   #29
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This is the largest manufactured ****ing crisis in ages it seems.


People are arguing over the mosque yet bottomline is that the people behind it have NO money. No plans, not even an architect's sketch. The main guy behind the project had to save up for 4 years just to buy the coat factory. Now they need another 100 million that they don't have.


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41238.html
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:13 PM   #30
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I'm just arguing that single point dumbass. You generalize on here more than anybody on ISH. You even say, "most of them are racist." And that's only based on what you watch on TV.

There are racist people in the so called "left" and I'm sure there are people that are against the building of this mosque on the so called "left." Your generalizations saying, "only the right does this" just makes you look straight up retarded.

lmao yeah sure dumbass. i already said this shit before to you but i'll repeat it because you're too f'iin dumb to think for yourself. a party that supports minorities, gays, womens rights, etc. aren't going to have those types of people, but a party against all of that will. common sense, no?

give me some logic for once backing up your 'they're both the same' dumbass viewpoint of yours and this brainwashed political correct mentality you have.
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