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Old 08-24-2010, 10:47 PM   #1
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Default If Oscar Schmidt came to the NBA in 1984???

What would this guy have done? He has scored the most points ever in professional basketball, and I think he has the highest PPG average in any Olympic basketball tournament.

The Nets drafted him in Round 6, 131st overall.

What kind of NBA career could Schmidt have had?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-GwkFJHQMk
46 points against the David Robinson led-US Team.

Scored 24 points against Dream Team 1 in 1992 at 34 years old.
Scored 26 points against Dream Team 3 in 1996 at 38 years old.
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Old 08-25-2010, 12:55 AM   #2
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Old 08-25-2010, 01:06 AM   #3
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What position did he play?

Actually, though, the Nets had a good team around that time. They upset Philly in the playoffs that year, and would be in the playoffs the next two years. They had some good players, like Michael Ray Richardson, Buck Williams, and the immortal Darryl Dawkins. They did make it back to the playoffs in 85, although they had a rash of injuries that year. Schmidt probably would have offset that a little bit, and they may have gone further with him on the team.

However, the Nets would take a hit in 85-86 when Michael Ray Richardson was suspended for life by the NBA for drugs.
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Old 08-25-2010, 03:40 AM   #4
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Default Re: If Oscar Schmidt came to the NBA in 1984???

Silly thread, we all know that international players back then weren't good.

Only today's international players are good.
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Old 08-25-2010, 03:46 AM   #5
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Silly thread, we all know that international players back then weren't good.

Only today's international players are good.

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Old 08-25-2010, 09:50 AM   #6
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Default Re: If Oscar Schmidt came to the NBA in 1984???

That is a matter that always had me wondering. The possibilities cover all spectra: If he had played for a team that already boasted some good SF and didn't trust foreigners or was defense-oriented (and Oscar played no defense), he might struggle. Look at Andrew Gaze. One of the best scorers in basketball history, yet he completely failed in the NBA. Drazen Petrovic at Portland, as well, with Drexler in front of him and with his defense being suspicious, wasn't finding many chances.

For a team that was rebuilding itself and was searching for a few great scorers, Scmindt would easily be a 20 ppg scorer. See Kiki Vandeweghe. Or Drazen in the Nets.

So, worst case scenario would be: Another Andrew Gaze.
Best case: Multiple seasons with around 20/5/3 or even a bit better, although his defense would still suffer.

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46 points against the David Robinson led-US Team.

Scored 24 points against Dream Team 1 in 1992 at 34 years old.
Scored 26 points against Dream Team 3 in 1996 at 38 years old.

His 46-pointer against USA is considered an All-time classic.
His '92 game wasn't good, he shot inefficiently (his whole tournament wasn't the best, unlike the previous '88 Olympics).
In '96, he started hot and made some long shots in a row, but got tired later.
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Old 08-25-2010, 09:55 AM   #7
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Default Re: If Oscar Schmidt came to the NBA in 1984???

He was second only to Galis in scoring. To answer your question he was one of the top 5 players in the world at that time along with Jordan, Bird, Magic, Galis.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:07 AM   #8
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That is a matter that always had me wondering. The possibilities cover all spectra: If he had played for a team that already boasted some good SF and didn't trust foreigners or was defense-oriented (and Oscar played no defense), he might struggle. Look at Andrew Gaze. One of the best scorers in basketball history, yet he completely failed in the NBA. Drazen Petrovic at Portland, as well, with Drexler in front of him and with his defense being suspicious, wasn't finding many chances.

For a team that was rebuilding itself and was searching for a few great scorers, Scmindt would easily be a 20 ppg scorer. See Kiki Vandeweghe. Or Drazen in the Nets.

So, worst case scenario would be: Another Andrew Gaze.
Best case: Multiple seasons with around 20/5/3 or even a bit better, although his defense would still suffer.



His 46-pointer against USA is considered an All-time classic.
His '92 game wasn't good, he shot inefficiently (his whole tournament wasn't the best, unlike the previous '88 Olympics).
In '96, he started hot and made some long shots in a row, but got tired later.

I agree 100%.

He did not want to go to the NBA because he feared they would never start a foreigner player and he would have to stop playing for the Brazil NT.
He could have been even an all star a couple of seasons
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:17 AM   #9
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He was second only to Galis in scoring. To answer your question he was one of the top 5 players in the world at that time along with Jordan, Bird, Magic, Galis.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:19 AM   #10
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Schmidt was near Galis' level. And Galis was second only to Jordan or equal to Jordan in the world in that time (might have even been better). It's fair to say Schmidt was the 5th best player in the world then.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:23 AM   #11
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Schmidt was near Galis' level. And Galis was second only to Jordan or equal to Jordan in the world in that time (might have even been better). It's fair to say Schmidt was the 5th best player in the world then.

Oh lord stop.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:27 AM   #12
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Oh lord stop.

Of course you have no freaking clue and you never saw Galis play. The man was an entire team by himself. And yes, when he played Jordan he dominated him.

He's the only player in history that was considered by himself equal to a whole team. He was a freak of nature. The sad part is that Americans don't even know who he is and he was American.

It's further proof that basketball is separated from the NBA entertainment show these days. A prime Galis in today's NBA would have been murder. With these rules they have and the reffing today? The guy would have put 40 points average with ease.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:48 AM   #13
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Of course you have no freaking clue and you never saw Galis play. The man was an entire team by himself. And yes, when he played Jordan he dominated him.

He's the only player in history that was considered by himself equal to a whole team. He was a freak of nature. The sad part is that Americans don't even know who he is and he was American.

It's further proof that basketball is separated from the NBA entertainment show these days. A prime Galis in today's NBA would have been murder. With these rules they have and the reffing today? The guy would have put 40 points average with ease.
LAKAS FAN YO enough already, why do you have to ruin every thread that is about international basketball.
you respond selectively when a person makes a solid argument,
and you start to whine about lies and how americans disrespect euro basketball.

No man can be equal to one team, unless he stops every possession and score every basket.

I can't say he is not a good player, but enough with the lies already.
You are the one who is telling lies, not the "stupid americans that hate euro basketball"

Just accept the fact that the majority of best players play in the US, and there are also some great players in europe, but they still don't belong to the top tier.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:51 AM   #14
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What position did he play?

Actually, though, the Nets had a good team around that time. They upset Philly in the playoffs that year, and would be in the playoffs the next two years. They had some good players, like Michael Ray Richardson, Buck Williams, and the immortal Darryl Dawkins. They did make it back to the playoffs in 85, although they had a rash of injuries that year. Schmidt probably would have offset that a little bit, and they may have gone further with him on the team.

However, the Nets would take a hit in 85-86 when Michael Ray Richardson was suspended for life by the NBA for drugs.

He was a wing. 2/3 shooter.
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LAKAS FAN YO enough already, why do you have to ruin every thread that is about international basketball.
you respond selectively when a person makes a solid argument,
and you start to whine about lies and how americans disrespect euro basketball.

No man can be equal to one team, unless he stops every possession and score every basket.

I can't say he is not a good player, but enough with the lies already.
You are the one who is telling lies, not the "stupid americans that hate euro basketball"

Just accept the fact that the majority of best players play in the US, and there are also some great players in europe, but they still don't belong to the top tier.

Galis was almost like not even human. It's too bad Americans could not see it. There has never been any player that was as good at scoring as him. It's just the simple fact. He was like a machine. And his physical stamina was inhuman.

Look compared to other Euroleague players that were held in very high regard like say Bodiroga or Ginobili.... Galis was on another planet from them.
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