Definitely side with Frazier. I understand what Ali was trying to do, but he crossed the line more than a few times with what he said about Joe. There is really no need to attack a guy in the mean-spirited way that Ali did just to garner attention or sell tickets. It could have been done in a less hurtful way.
And, Joe is a guy that reached out to Ali when he had his license revoked, gave him money and helped get him re-instated. He was re-payed by being portrayed as a 'gorilla,' the 'white man's champ,' and by having his intelligence mocked.
It is amazing to me how Ali came out of that era smelling like a rose and is a national icon while Joe lives in a one-bedroom apartment above his gym in Philly. Everyone seems to forget the 'other' guy that helped make that era as great as it was. Joe deserves better.
Yep, no respect whatsoever for ali. he is a worthless ingrate. Glad karma bite him in the ass in the form of parkinson.
Joe Frazier has a lot of pent up hate for Ali (some/most of it rightfully so - Ali treated Frazier with the greatest disrespect leading up to the Thrilla in Manilla). Frazier lives in near poverty to this day.
Ali was the gigantic douchebag. Until karma bit him and everybody start feeling sorry for the fool.
I think you're misconstruing douchebag for greatness. Yea his personality and chirps could be perceived as blatant arrogance but that's part of the game. Cocky he was but douchebag I find to be a little to harsh