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Old 09-19-2010, 05:26 PM   #31
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Default Re: Michael Vick is such a unique talent.

Michael Vick had awful receivers in Atlanta. I believe his last year there, he led the league in dropped passes by his receivers. If he wasn't the leader, he was close. If he were ever given a good set of receivers, I believe he would have put up amazing numbers, and had much better success.
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:26 PM   #32
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Default Re: Michael Vick is such a unique talent.

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I know right and the coach was trying to make him into a passing quarterback. Crumpler was good with Vick though.

The best thing is we haven't seen the best of Vick, he is a remade man. I could only imagine if he had a Vernon Davis at TE and at WR an Andre Johnson. Will the Pat Riley of the NFL please stand up?

Heaven forbid a coach try and get their quarterback to pass the ball on a WR dominated league.
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:29 PM   #33
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Those two will never be on the level of Michael Vick.
Ok, admittedly that was an exaggeration. Matt Cassel will probably never reach that level. Pennington on the other hand has a lot more QB skills than Vick has ever had, had several seasons with an above average QB rating while Vick has had several below average QB rating stats as alluded to by RaininThrees and has never had a season of passing 3000+ yards.
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:38 PM   #34
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Ok, admittedly that was an exaggeration. Matt Cassel will probably never reach that level. Pennington on the other hand has a lot more QB skills than Vick has ever had, had several seasons with an above average QB rating while Vick has had several below average QB rating stats as alluded to by RaininThrees and has never had a season of passing 3000+ yards.


Vick actually made teams win, you know brought the falcons within one game of the superbowl in 04. Beating GB @ lambeau. Stuff like that.

Pennington? Another unmemorable QB who couldn't move if the D-line starting shooting at him. Please.
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:41 PM   #35
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Default Re: Michael Vick is such a unique talent.

Vick is like the tmac of the nfl.

Never had a good team
Had unfortunate occurances that ****ed up their careers
Were amazing indivdual talents/ physical specimens
And had no accodlades
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:43 PM   #36
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Default Re: Michael Vick is such a unique talent.

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Ok, admittedly that was an exaggeration. Matt Cassel will probably never reach that level. Pennington on the other hand has a lot more QB skills than Vick has ever had, had several seasons with an above average QB rating while Vick has had several below average QB rating stats as alluded to by RaininThrees and has never had a season of passing 3000+ yards.

Right Pennington who has a weak arm and has battled injuries in his career. Get real. What is Chad Pennington and those QB skills doing nowadays? Tell me. Vick has been out of football because of his stupidity. Chad is well, this is where you pick up and tell me.

You picking Chad Pennington over Michael Vick is moronic to say the least. Vick isnt gonna complete 65% of his passes and 4,000yds passing. But he is a threat with his legs and teams gameplan to stop him. I dont recall if there ever was a time Chad Pennington made defenses worried, conscious or had defensive coordinators gameplanning to contain/stop him.
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:47 PM   #37
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Default Re: Michael Vick is such a unique talent.

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Ok, admittedly that was an exaggeration. Matt Cassel will probably never reach that level. Pennington on the other hand has a lot more QB skills than Vick has ever had, had several seasons with an above average QB rating while Vick has had several below average QB rating stats as alluded to by RaininThrees and has never had a season of passing 3000+ yards.

Pennington had a noodle for an arm. He was a smart QB and made good reads, but he couldn't throw the ball down field.
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:48 PM   #38
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Default Re: Michael Vick is such a unique talent.

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Vick....Lookin fresh these day's...


And he had ok WR's in Atlanta...Atleast Weapons on the level that Brady had in 04'...Crumpler was a beast aswell...Although never was the same after Dawking knocked his lights out in that NFC Championship game.. ...I swear Eagles has the GOAT hits in playoffs..


Deion Branch was a beast.
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Vick is like the tmac of the nfl.

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Were amazing indivdual talents/ physical specimens
And had no accodlades

Vick is only 30 years old and has his legs still. Unless he comes down with a lower leg injury like an ACL. He is going to have his speed until like 35-36 years old. That's still 5 or 6 more solid seasons he can add to his resume. He is passing better now than any time in his history.


John Elway didn't play his best football until he was 38-39 years old in 1997 and 1998 winning back to back superbowls.
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:51 PM   #40
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John Elway didn't play his best football until he was 38-39 years old in 1997 and 1998 winning back to back superbowls.

What the hell are you talkin about? You're obviously clueless.
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Deion Branch was a beast.

And so was Crumpler...Branch was overrated anyway...Brady made him look good...Finneren was a solid big target..and they had OK RB's....Eagles WR's were garbage aswell...(Without T.O...Freddie Mitchell was num 1 WR., lol)
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Vick is only 30 years old and has his legs still. Unless he comes down with a lower leg injury like an ACL. He is going to have his speed until like 35-36 years old. That's still 5 or 6 more solid seasons he can add to his resume. He is passing better now than any time in his history.


John Elway didn't play his best football until he was 38-39 years old in 1997 and 1998 winning back to back superbowls.
yeah, you clearly dont understand what running in the NFL does for your longevity.
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Default Re: Michael Vick is such a unique talent.

While watching this Jets/Pats game, I can tell you Vick is more accurate than Sanchez.
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yeah, you clearly dont understand what running in the NFL does for your longevity.
Vick is a quarterback, he wont take nearly as many big hits as a RB.
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Vick is a quarterback, he wont take nearly as many big hits as a RB.
hes a scrambling quarterback. Now, I agree it wont decrease his longevity like a primary RB, but I think its pretty nuts to think that he will be an effective starting QB (without a drastic shift in his style of play) at age 35-36
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