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Old 11-26-2010, 04:35 PM   #46
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Brady and Vick should begin and end the MVP talk for this season. What Brady has done, keeping the Pats (so far) at the top of the NFL while losing his best receiver and barely having a running game is phenomenal. Top scoring offense in the game based on a passing attack featuring a possession receiver, a guy who barely played in Seattle, a few no-name RBs and two rookie tight ends. Brady gets a ton of credit.
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Brady also lost Moss so don't like he has a whole bunch of great receivers. He has Welker, but Rivers has also had Gates for most of this season. Brady has also thrown half the amount of interceptions as Rivers. This is not to say Rivers is bad, but you can't act like Brady who is on top of most peoples list doesn't deserve it. Brady lost Moss and they completely restructured the passing game.

I'm not saying what Brady has done isn't great, but what Rivers has done is historical and will rank right up there with Marino's great '84 and '86 years, Mannings 49 touchdown year and Brady's 50 touchdown year.

Brady doesn't deserve to be over Rivers if this is strictly who has been the best quarterback. What's the argument? He has done more with less? That can't be it since Rivers has as bad, or maybe even worse weapons than Brady. Stats? Can't be it.

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Old 11-26-2010, 04:49 PM   #48
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Brady and Vick should begin and end the MVP talk for this season. What Brady has done, keeping the Pats (so far) at the top of the NFL while losing his best receiver and barely having a running game is phenomenal. Top scoring offense in the game based on a passing attack featuring a possession receiver, a guy who barely played in Seattle, a few no-name RBs and two rookie tight ends. Brady gets a ton of credit.

The Patriots have rushed for over 100 yards in eight games this year, including against the Ravens, Vikings & Steelers. That's not barely having a running game, that's a reliable, consistent running game.
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They rank 16th. The running game is there but there's nothing special about it. When a player gets 100 yards in a game that's something. When a team goes for 100? Big deal. The strength of the offense is far and away the passing attack. Woodhead and Ellis do their jobs but they're average players.
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They rank 16th. The running game is there but there's nothing special about it. When a player gets 100 yards in a game that's something. When a team goes for 100? Big deal. The strength of the offense is far and away the passing attack. Woodhead and Ellis do their jobs but they're average players.

Care to elaborate on why 1 person rushing for 100 is so much more meaningful than a team rushing for 100 yards? The Kansas City Chiefs (the #1 rushing team in the league) have relied on a team approach and are extremely effective.

I see absolutely no difference between the two.
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There is no difference. A team running for over 100 yards is the same as one single player doing it.
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Care to elaborate on why 1 person rushing for 100 is so much more meaningful than a team rushing for 100 yards? The Kansas City Chiefs (the #1 rushing team in the league) have relied on a team approach and are extremely effective.

I see absolutely no difference between the two.
When a single back gets that yardage you normally have 1 or 2 of his back-ups getting yads as well and possibly other contributing leading to a greater total. The Pats, in spite of all of those team 100-yard games are only 16th in rush yards per game. GB is 19th, and they average 100.5. It's really not a major accomplishment for a team. For a single back that's another matter.
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This is a tough call between Brady, Rivers and Vick right now because they are all playing at extremely high levels right now but I'll say..

1. Brady
2. Rivers
3. Vick

..then there's everyone else. Now as far as MVP I see no way Rivers wins it regardless of the numbers he puts up unless the chargers win out and both the patriots n eagles lose 5 or more games because Brady and Vick play in by far tougher divisons with unquestionably tougher schedules then Philip does. Also you tell me a standout game Rivers has had so far against a legitimate team, he doesnt have one while Brady put on a passing clinic against arguably the best defense in he league in the steelers and everyone witnessed Vicks all-time great Monday night game against the skins.
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