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Old 10-18-2010, 09:36 PM   #1
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Default NFL may start suspending players for hits

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5699517


This is after Dunta Robinson's hit on DeSean Jackson, as well as James Harrison's two hits against Bengals players Josh Cribbs and Mohamed Massaquoi.


Dunta Robinson- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmsAdwm7LHQ

James Harrison- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLXJy3dap3o


Robinson's hit on Jackson was legal. Harrison's hit on Cribbs was ruled legal and I'm not sure about the last one. I'm all for punishing helmet on helmet hits, but hits on guys that simply cut the middle are legal and this opens the door for punishing anything ruled a "hard" hit.
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:42 PM   #2
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Browns not Bengals.
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:45 PM   #3
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Default Re: NFL may start suspending players for hits

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Browns not Bengals.


Yes, my mistake.
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:50 PM   #4
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Default Re: NFL may start suspending players for hits

The Robinson hit was ruled illegal because of the new definition of a "defenseless player", a part of the new rules announced back in the summer. He didn't lead with his helmet but you can't launch yourself at a player and hit him above the shoulder pads.

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The key rules change for player safety bars a defenseless player from being hit in the head or neck area by an opponent who launches himself and uses his helmet, shoulder or forearm to make contact. Previously, those kind of tackles were banned against receivers who couldn't protect themselves, but now it will apply to everyone.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...ty-rules_N.htm

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The definition of a "defenseless receiver" (where a receiver cannot be hit in the head or neck area by an opponent who launches himself and makes contact with his helmet, shoulder, or forearm) will now apply to every defenseless player.
-that's from wiki


I don't necessarily think it's dirty...but we've been given evidence of why it's illegal.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfoPYpC4pyY

It's like a guarantee that someone gets hurt and in this case both DeSean and Dunta were hurt.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqmdI3tVuMA

A play like that is legal because it's below the shoulder pads.

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Old 10-18-2010, 09:53 PM   #5
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Default Re: NFL may start suspending players for hits

That Massaquoi hit was foul. The Cribbs one was violent, but that was just a one-two play for me. Nothing dirty there. The former was dirty all around. Typical Steeler shenanigans.
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Old 10-18-2010, 10:23 PM   #6
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Default Re: NFL may start suspending players for hits

Good. James Harrison is reckless and will end up paralyzing someone. Suspend him until he stops playing like a moron.
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Old 10-18-2010, 10:44 PM   #7
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The NFL will announce by Wednesday that, effective this weekend, even first-time offenders face suspension for "devastating hits" and "head shots," according to Ray Anderson, the league's executive vice president of football operations.

"We can't and won't tolerate what we saw Sunday," Anderson said Monday. "We've got to get the message to players that these devastating hits and head shots will be met with a very necessary higher standard of accountability. We have to dispel the notion that you get one free pass in these egregious or flagrant shots."

Anderson was alluding to the normal disciplinary measures in which the league has issued fines for first-time offenders and, very often, second-time offenders.

"What we saw Sunday was disturbing," Anderson said. "We're talking about avoiding life-altering impacts."
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Old 10-18-2010, 11:09 PM   #8
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Default Re: NFL may start suspending players for hits

That sucks. They're trying to make Football as soft as tuesday night Badminton. Football is a man's sport, quit with the p*ssy sh*t. Hard hits and tackles are apart of the game, if they can't take the hits, GTFO the league.
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Old 10-18-2010, 11:13 PM   #9
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Motherfuck a James Harrison, I got malice in my heart for that nigga b.
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Default Re: NFL may start suspending players for hits

and the hit on todd heap. that one was brutal
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Default Re: NFL may start suspending players for hits

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and the hit on todd heap. that one was brutal
Yeah Meriweather is dirty as hell. He's so obvious with it too, they're just straight up bar room headbutts.
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Old 10-19-2010, 07:03 AM   #12
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Default Re: NFL may start suspending players for hits

If the NFL really gives a shit about this, not just the public perception and media reaction it brings, but REALLY gives a shit, they'll consider widening the field and diminishing the amount of padding.

Getting rids of a few pounds of plastic and padding around your dome in this kind of game seems pretty counter productive at first glance I realize, until you actually watch a number of these hits and see that so many of the defenders laying the hits (the VAST majority of them legal) are doing it in a way that they're launching themselves in a controlled manner knowing what they're doing. I'm not saying there's a bunch of headhunters in the NFL that're trying to paralyze people, but when you've got the amount of equipment these guys do and you've got the extra split second to gather yourself and explode into an offensive player that's going any which way from a previous hit, then you do it. It's your job, and the equipment allows you to do it in such a controlled manner that the hitter has little to worry about.

You want less violent contact hits? Quit putting more and more padding on these guys. Let the guy laying the hit get seriously injured and these hits are done.
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Default Re: NFL may start suspending players for hits

Widening the field will not change hits over the middle, which is where all the hits were this week.
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Old 10-19-2010, 10:01 AM   #14
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Default Re: NFL may start suspending players for hits

Widen the field..


pfft. You Canadians are hilarious but no, you need to STFU. We don't need fields 100yrds sideline to sideline. Our players don't play on square fields homeboy. So no horrid idea.
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To be honest I think they could do with a few yards wider on each side. When the game originated the players weren't half the size of a guy like Knighton last night on the Jags.
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