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Old 11-11-2010, 12:35 PM   #16
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wait what? We prosecuted Japanese soldiers in WWII for waterboarding. We have done the same with our own soldiers and civilians pre 2008 as well.

Where are you reading it only became illegal in 2008?

ok, i take the hit and admit i didn't read the facts right (after re-reading).my bad

however i still believe my point stands that you can only try civvie, military and para-military personnel. thus CIA is allowed...and why they do
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Old 11-11-2010, 12:39 PM   #17
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He fully admits to authorizing water boarding.


Water boarding is torture and the use of torture is a war crime.

We have prosecuted it as such in the past time and time again.

Ergo, he is a war criminal.




Yes, it may be a crime by international standards but he is "our" guy. Nothing will happen to him inside of the US. His actions will be seen as necessary and "heroic" to some hard core patriots.

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and Eric Holder/Obama will do nothing.

never mind we had a President impeached for lying about a BJ.

Don't let the Right/Left system in politics fool you. They are all on the same team at the end of the day. Thats why nothing will happen to Bush.
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:25 PM   #18
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Except we're not making concentration camps for anybody...and we're not trying to take over the world.

I said the attack on Poland not the Holocaust.

Hitler attacked Poland for economic and ideological reasons.
He used a lie to justify it. ( attack on sender Gleiwitz)

Bush attacked Iraq for economic and ideological reaosns too.
He used a lie to justify it. (weapons of amss destruction)

Both wars had no legitimation what so ever.
That's a fact.

What's the difference??
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:51 PM   #19
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I said the attack on Poland not the Holocaust.

Hitler attacked Poland for economic and ideological reasons.
He used a lie to justify it. ( attack on sender Gleiwitz)

Bush attacked Iraq for economic and ideological reaosns too.
He used a lie to justify it. (weapons of amss destruction)

Both wars had no legitimation what so ever.
That's a fact.

What's the difference??
the US didn't throw a few million iraqi citizens in the pizza oven
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:56 PM   #20
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the US didn't throw a few million iraqi citizens in the pizza oven
Yeah instead we just executed them in the worst way possible. Big difference. Genocide is genocide whether pizza ovens are involved or not.
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Old 11-11-2010, 03:13 PM   #21
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the US didn't throw a few million iraqi citizens in the pizza oven
that's not that much of a difference. the principle remains the same....
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Old 11-11-2010, 03:31 PM   #22
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the US didn't throw a few million iraqi citizens in the pizza oven

Exactly. We just shoot them or even better, drop bombs. No need for ovens. We do things efficiently.

America, baby......america........
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Old 11-11-2010, 03:42 PM   #23
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Wait...wait... didn't the US attack Iraq to protect their freedom ?
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Old 11-11-2010, 04:05 PM   #24
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I find it odd that people assume the fact that no WMDs were found means that Iraq never had them. They had them and used them in the past and then got rid of them, much to the surprise of our bungling intelligence community.
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Old 11-11-2010, 04:06 PM   #25
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Don't forget that he doesn't care about black people either.
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Old 11-11-2010, 04:19 PM   #26
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This is a biased source, but interesting food for thought.

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/read...px?ARTID=27199


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Al Gore and Bill Clinton had themselves called for the removal of Saddam by force when he expelled the UN weapons inspectors in 1998, a clear violation of the Gulf truce. This was the reason Clinton and Gore sent an “Iraqi Liberation Act” to Congress that year; it is why the congressional Democrats voted in October 2002 to authorize the president to use force to remove him; and it is the reason the entire Clinton-Gore national security team, including the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense and the Director of Central Intelligence, supported Bush when he sent American troops into Iraq in March 2003.

The Authorization for the Use of Force bill – passed by majorities of both parties in both Houses – is the legal basis for the president’s war, which Democrats have since betrayed along with the troops they sent to the battlefield. The Authorization bill begins with 23 “whereas” clauses justifying the war. Contrary to Gore and the Democratic critics of the Bush administration, only two of these clauses refer to stockpiles of WMDs. On the other hand, twelve of the reasons for going to war refer to UN resolutions violated by Saddam Hussein.
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I find it odd that people assume the fact that no WMDs were found means that Iraq never had them. They had them and used them in the past and then got rid of them, much to the surprise of our bungling intelligence community.
How is that relevant to us staying in Iraq after Hussein was executed? I'll admit I was happy to see that asshole hang, but after that event the whole occupation started making very little sense to me. If you can justify this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/data...raq-deaths-map with we were looking for WMD's then I don't know what else to tell you.
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Old 11-11-2010, 05:57 PM   #28
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I find it odd that people assume the fact that no WMDs were found means that Iraq never had them. They had them and used them in the past and then got rid of them, much to the surprise of our bungling intelligence community.
this is pretty much bullshit. Its true that they had chemical weapons (that we sold them), but there is no real evidence of them manufacturing WMDs. Any reasonable perusal of the available data shows that the bush admin chose which intelligence to present and use in its argument, while ignoring/hiding the intelligence that contradicted it. the centrifuge tubes are the most obvious example (all of the nuclear experts agreed that these tubes could not be used to refine uranium for weapons grade shit, yet this was completely ignored by the admin because it didnt support their argument). Good approach in a debate? Maybe, but terrible governance.
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(Democrat) Woodrow Wilson - WW1

(Democrat) FDR - WW2

(Democrat) Harry Truman - Cold War

(Democrat) Harry Truman - Korean War

(Democrat) Harry Truman - Vietnam (sent MAAG in 4 years prior to Eisenhower)

(Republican) George Bush sr - Gulf War

(Democrat) Bill Clinton - Bosnian War

(Democrat) Bill Clinton - Kosovo War

(Republican) George Bush jr - War on Terror






The Republicans are war mongers
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(Democrat) Woodrow Wilson - WW1

(Democrat) FDR - WW2

(Democrat) Harry Truman - Cold War

(Democrat) Harry Truman - Korean War

(Democrat) Harry Truman - Vietnam (sent MAAG in 4 years prior to Eisenhower)

(Republican) George Bush sr - Gulf War

(Democrat) Bill Clinton - Bosnian War

(Democrat) Bill Clinton - Kosovo War

(Republican) George Bush jr - War on Terror






The Republicans are war mongers






nice biased ass post with some sweet misinformation.
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