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Old 11-11-2010, 06:26 PM   #31
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It's not biased or misinformation, it's original and 100% fact just like the thread you started. It's not cliche and typical nonsense because were both socially inept and sad people who will never fit in. We're cool and counter-culture
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Old 11-11-2010, 06:30 PM   #32
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It's not biased or misinformation, it's original and 100% fact just like the thread you started. It's not cliche and typical nonsense because were both socially inept and sad people who will never fit in. We're cool and counter-culture


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Old 11-11-2010, 10:04 PM   #33
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It's not biased or misinformation, it's original and 100% fact just like the thread you started. It's not cliche and typical nonsense because were both socially inept and sad people who will never fit in. We're cool and counter-culture

it is actually.

i'll give you a few more hours to figure it out.
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:32 PM   #34
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(Democrat) Woodrow Wilson - WW1

(Democrat) FDR - WW2

(Democrat) Harry Truman - Cold War

(Democrat) Harry Truman - Korean War

(Democrat) Harry Truman - Vietnam (sent MAAG in 4 years prior to Eisenhower)

(Republican) George Bush sr - Gulf War

(Democrat) Bill Clinton - Bosnian War

(Democrat) Bill Clinton - Kosovo War

(Republican) George Bush jr - War on Terror






The Republicans are war mongers
not sure why I would respond to a post by this sock account, but I will. Why in the world are Kosovo and Bosnia listed as US engaged wars? Where's the actual military actions (like Somalia) that the US engaged in? and no distinction between the war on terror and the war in Iraq?

Also, no Grenada? or Panama? And there is a difference between a war monger (which is probably not appropriate for any of them other than possibly the last pres. anyways) and a war criminal. FDR was clearly reluctant to engage. The only legit war initiator democrat pres on that list is truman
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:11 PM   #35
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:20 PM   #36
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Really I could care less what the Geneva conventions say. Just the idea of a set of rules for war is one of the most hypocritical/idiotic ideas ever. Do you not realize that you're complaining about someone being tortured when we are basically organizing killings all over the middle east? What's the difference between that and the water boarding (other then the victims are relatively unharmed of course) and the killings in the middle east, other then the rules say one makes you a war criminal?
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you do realize that you are basically dismissing the entire convention of law and the social contract? Thats what makes anything illegal, that its agreed to be a set of behavior outside of the acceptable choices in society.
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I'm not dismissing all laws, I'm dismissing the idea that somebody should be prosecuted for torture, but not for murder, or that one murder should be distinguished from another.
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Old 11-12-2010, 07:15 AM   #39
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this is pretty much bullshit. Its true that they had chemical weapons (that we sold them).


Yeah we've all read that the US sold the Iraqis materials and technology for wmds. Bad move and a good reason to go in and destroy them. But we get there and where are they?

Did we also manufacture Saddam's noncompliance with UN resolutions and the terms of the Gulf War?

IMO Saddam was gonna get his comeuppance sooner or later. He knew the UN was powerless to enforce anything on him and both the Clinton and Bush administrations were running out of patience. Was it an appropriate response to 9/11? No, but in the minds of the W administration things were going smoothly in Afghanistan so why not take care of some other housekeeping while you're in the region? And remember that practically all of the higher ups in the Clinton administration were in favor of the resolution.

Of course the aftermath of any act of war is a whole other ball of wax.

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Old 11-12-2010, 08:06 AM   #40
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For all the soldiers that died because Bush stole the election, I hope Bush and Cheney burn in hell. If we all have such a short memory, we deserve to have this country fall apart.
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Old 11-12-2010, 08:35 AM   #41
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He fully admits to authorizing water boarding.

Water boarding is torture and the use of torture is a war crime.




And if you don't think water boarding is torture your an idiot... and if you don't think it should be a crime your f*cking retarded.


Sorry... but the only thing that separates America from the the bad guys is that we do not torture under any circumstances.

my two cents.
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o waterboarding boohoo, you know what they do in every single undeveloped country in the world and even developed ones like Russia?

They electrocute your ****ing balls and bottom of your feet, yeh I think compared to the rest of the world, Bush has been pretty humane.

waterboarding causes no physical or permanent damage, would you rather he stick electrical clamps on everyones testicles?
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And if you don't think water boarding is torture your an idiot... and if you don't think it should be a crime your f*cking retarded.


Sorry... but the only thing that separates America from the the bad guys is that we do not torture under any circumstances.

my two cents.
You're a fucking naive simpleton if you truly believe that bullshit.

You do know on nearly every army base there is a shipping container from one of our ally nations, for example egypt, and this is where you take prisoners to beat the shit out of them, because technically inside of the shipping container is foreign soil?

America tortures prisoners just as much as every other nation in the world, what makes you think we don't? How do you think the FBI and CIA extract information from anyone, by asking nicely and giving them a slice of mom's home made apple pie?
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you do realize that you are basically dismissing the entire convention of law and the social contract? Thats what makes anything illegal, that its agreed to be a set of behavior outside of the acceptable choices in society.
Why aren't you guys throwing bitch fits about other nations like Russia, Germany and France physically beating the shit out of their prisoners, and using other forms of torture? If anything you guys should be more outraged at those nations using torture techniques that can possibly cause permanent damage or death, compared to George Bush using a form of what amounts to psychological torture with no physical harm done?

Nearly every other first world nation is worse than us and still you guys are throwing little girl tantrums about waterboarding, simply because Bill Maher told you to hate Bush


for the record Im not republican and think Bush was a bad president too

By your definition of war criminal-using torture-every leader in the world is currently a war criminal. Come on bozos use your heads, Slobodan Milosevic was a war criminal, Bush was just a dumbass politician
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Why aren't you guys throwing bitch fits about other nations like Russia, Germany and France physically beating the shit out of their prisoners, and using other forms of torture?

Because we are America and we can kick anybodies @ss.

It has to draw a line somewhere.

and besides... we don't give a f*ck what they do over there, but in America we don't torture.
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