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Old 02-21-2012, 02:10 PM   #211
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Never said he didn't, but D'Antoni has no clue on how to coach Amare and Melo.
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Old 02-21-2012, 02:14 PM   #212
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Old 02-21-2012, 02:20 PM   #213
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Of course you do.
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Old 02-21-2012, 03:00 PM   #214
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Of course you do.

Why do you think a coach that preaches no defense, no set plays, and just pick n roll would ever be able to win in this league?
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Old 02-21-2012, 03:28 PM   #215
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Why do you think a coach that preaches no defense, no set plays, and just pick n roll would ever be able to win in this league?
Our defense is sixth in the league, we run set plays all the time, and Mike D'antoni has won a lot of games.

You were wrong on all fronts in that one.
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Old 02-21-2012, 03:43 PM   #216
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Our defense is sixth in the league, we run set plays all the time, and Mike D'antoni has won a lot of games.

You were wrong on all fronts in that one.

1 Only after FORCING 'Antoni to hire a defensive coordinator

2 We run Iso and pick n roll. I hardly call that set plays.

3 Mike 'Antoni is 41 games below .500 in his Knicks career. He loses more often than he wins in NY.

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AMARE TRADE SCENARIOS

Most of them are probably unrealistic but I just want to ask you if you would do these trades:

Trade 1:
Ray Allen + Brandon Bass + Greg Stiensma for Amare Stoudemire + Jerome Jordan
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6n66rpv

Trade 2:
Pau Gasol for Amare Stoudemire
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Trade 3:
Elton Brand + Jodie Meeks for Amare Stoudemire
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7ehoet3

Trade 4:
Kevin Martin + Luis Scola for Amare Stoudemire
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Trade 5:
Chris Kaman + Trevor Ariza for Amare Stoudemire
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Trade 6:
Anderson Varejao + Ramon Sessions for Amare Stoudemire
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I'll say it again. Those trades might be unrealistic,I just had some time off so I decided to play with ESPN Trade Machine.

Would you do any of those 6 trades ? Do you think other teams would accept the deal ?

I think trade 4 is the most realistic and helps both teams. I'd do it.
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Old 02-21-2012, 03:57 PM   #218
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What the hell do we need Kevin Martin for?

Half our team are guards. Lin, Baron, JR, Fields, Shumpert, Dead Man Walking (Bibby).
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Old 02-21-2012, 04:16 PM   #219
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1 Only after FORCING 'Antoni to hire a defensive coordinator
And giving him a legit defensive center.

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2 We run Iso and pick n roll. I hardly call that set plays.
There are more plays that we run. You can see them when you watch the offense. And, on top of that, I'm pretty sure some interview mentioned he was keeping things simple for all the new players. I wouldn't surprise me with the lack of a training camp. And whatever his methods, he consistently has one of the best offenses in the league, so whatever he's doing on that end works.

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His first two years were "wait and see" while the team cleared cap space. Then he got some legit players and the team was over .500 and into the playoffs for the first time in 4 or 5 years. Then Melo came along and blew everything up. His career winning percentage is over .500.
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Old 02-21-2012, 04:50 PM   #220
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1 Plenty of teams play great defense without a legit defensive center

2 Our offense is ranked 12th this year. Be still my beating heart.

3 He sucks since he has been in NY. I don't care what he did elsewhere.
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1 Plenty of teams play great defense without a legit defensive center
Like who? I'm guessing teams with guys like Andre Igoudala and LeBron James instead of Carmelo Anthony and Amar'e Stoudemire.

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Melo. Cough.

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New York made the playoffs for the first time in several years under D'Antoni and the franchise is more relevant now than at any point in the last decade. Compared to the pre-D'antoni years, his tenure has completely revitalized the franchise. It's all very exciting.
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Old 02-21-2012, 05:53 PM   #222
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Atlanta is good on defense with Zaza Pachulia.

D'Antoni does not know how to run plays with Melo and STAT. I thought we went over this already.

OMG WE MADE THE PLAYOFFS. OMG WE MADE THE PLAYOFFS. Extend D'Antoni for life.
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Atlanta is good on defense with Zaza Pachulia.
Pachulia's not a terrible defender. They also have a freak like Josh Smith running around. We're going to see that matchup tomorrow.
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D'Antoni does not know how to run plays with Melo and STAT. I thought we went over this already.
They actually had a nice little two-man game going in the fourth. I think we'll see more of that.
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What the hell do we need Kevin Martin for?

Half our team are guards. Lin, Baron, JR, Fields, Shumpert, Dead Man Walking (Bibby).

Lin,Bibby,Baron are point guards. Fields and JR may be gone after this year. Contrary to most Knick fans belief, theres something called building for the future. We always want to build a team to win this year. Problem is, we haven't had a contender in over a decade.
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:39 AM   #225
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Lin,Bibby,Baron are point guards. Fields and JR may be gone after this year. Contrary to most Knick fans belief, theres something called building for the future. We always want to build a team to win this year. Problem is, we haven't had a contender in over a decade.

JR signed a 2 year deal. Fields may be gone next year, depending on how much he asks for, and what some other team offers.
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